4.22 out of 5 - 74 reviews

View Grouse Grind Description | Add Comment

Prad from Port Moody writes:

Difficult yet brilliant hike! It’s steep and difficult but very enjoyable.

    Posted: August 19, 2023 02:19:32 PM PST

    Berry from Vancouver writes:

    Hey, I want to get in shape. I was wondering if you are allowed to hike the grouse grind if you are unvaxxed? I'm not riddled with covid I swear.

      Posted: December 1, 2021 12:22:57 PM PST

      Heather from Ann Arbor, MI writes:

      I'd normally give the grind a five star plus (it's one of my favorite hikes [long history of running up this trail to reward myself with the beautiful view of the city]), however, I was very disappointed in the lack Covid safety's enforced by Grouse Mountain. Nobody was masked during the hike (which was ok-- since we had lots of space, and we were outdoors). It surprised me (because I expected a more responsible community, and I expected more enforcement from the Grouse mountain). What really brought the experience to a one star was the jam packed Gondola ride. It was empty going up (which is why we decided to take the gondola), but it was packed (from all the awesome hikers) on the way down. The attempt to social distance, in my opinion, was absolutely ridiculous. The markers for people to stand-giving 2 ft distance (if that) was a joke. Seriously, is this a marketing attempt to make people think you're trying to take safety into account? Because 60 people in a gondola (with 1-2 ft apart) is not going to prevent spread.....and it's going to (eventually) put you in jeopardy of temporarily shutting down (and being the cause of super spreading). Come on B.C.- you've done such a great job. Don't ruin it. There is a reason why you're doing a better job than south of the border--- but it can get out of control (really quickly- believe me). It was a reminder that we need to make our own decisions on what is safe. We can't rely on businesses to make this assessment for us---- because the grind is not following social distancing protocols (with regards to the gondola). I'll be back (because I love this mountain)-- but not until there is a vaccine.
      Ironically, once of the reasons we came back to B.C. (home) is because we were so impressed with the Covid numbers (we assumed businesses were taking full measures to prevent the spread [which many are])....but Grouse, you're on track to ruin your ski season.....

        Posted: October 9, 2020 08:26:47 AM PST

        Petey from Vancouver writes:

        Just did the grind for the second time today. Make sure you are in shape, and ready for this hike or it will kick your butt.
        Another thing. Where the heck are the water fountains at the top? Found one next to the gear/clothing store, but the water was turned OFF.......
        Seriously, for a really expensive resort, charging customers up the butt for parking and gondola rides, do we really have to fill up our water bottle in the bathroom sink.

          Posted: September 20, 2020 01:39:20 PM PST

          sharon from maple ridge writes:

          so long ago holding on to sanity when life was in turmoil alone and saying i was ok silly me what seems obvious i guess isn't / who what where and why no one to blame but saying i am ok is not true/doing the grind was a step to inner peace /which alone can not be done it was a wonder that i did not cry when the news talked to me

            Posted: December 7, 2019 03:34:11 AM PST

            PAUL WOOD from ARFORD, HAMPSHIRE, UK writes:

            My wife (Parmjit, 62) and I (71) took the trail on 29th September, a Saturday. The car parks were full, the weather 18 deg C and dull, and most folks were queuing for the Gondola ascent. Small groups of tourists were encountered on the trail, and we were frequently passed by fit locals who were "out for a stroll". Age ranges were about from 10 years to 50 years, except us! Since we had successfully walked the 6 Glaciers trail at Lake Louise (8.3 kms) ten days previously, we assumed the Grouse Grind was within our capabilities. It transpired that we were correct, but it was not a "cakewalk", and we were at the top in 2hrs 15 mins. This was achieved with the aid of a stout staff in one hand, mainly to pull up on some of the high-elevation steps provided at various points. This trail is basically a "one-way street", although a few people had to contravene the rule when they felt unable to make the top. We came back down the BCMC alternative trail which was longer and far more difficult to navigate. The staffs were essential damage protection, due to the rough going. Great achievement, survived unhurt!

            • Grouse Grind photo
            • Grouse Grind photo

              Posted: October 13, 2018 07:53:37 AM PST

              Juliet from Edmonton writes:

              Amazing! Thought it was pretty intense. 1/2 way it was challenging but the rest was straight up. I took a lot of brakes cause I don't normally hike espespially not alone but met some awesome people on the way that help get me to the top.
              I know I'm going to feel the pain tomorrow.

              • Grouse Grind photo

                Posted: October 6, 2018 03:25:10 AM PST

                Birgitte Hoier from Vaeggerloese, Denmark writes:

                DId the Grind yesterday - steep at the bottom and then it goes straight into the sky - I have never been so happy to see 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 signs :) It was tough, challenging, fun and a good exercise. I was fortunate to have fellow hikers being supportive all the way up - thanks for comments and encourangement!

                  Posted: September 13, 2018 08:30:58 PM PST

                  Jonk from Vancouver writes:

                  I took both of my 50-year-old mother and father separately on the Grouse Grind. My parents love the place. It’s certainly a challenge going up. We brought lots of snacks, water, and a good footwear which make it all the easier. I recommend this challenge to anyone visiting the Lower Mainland. The view from the top was beautiful. The Grizzly Habitat at the top was amazing. I would like to visit in the winter.

                    Posted: August 7, 2018 07:23:41 PM PST

                    Konstantin from West Vancouver writes:

                    It's hard only the first time.

                      Posted: April 21, 2018 10:59:32 PM PST

                      Jim from Vancouver writes:

                      I've hiked every trail of note between and including the Lions and Seymour.
                      I hiked the Grind a lot in the 80s, and then once in 2000 when the crowds convinced me I could do better elsewhere .
                      About 8 weeks ago I agreed to do it on a whim with a friend. I thought I was fit, resting pulse 50, 10k runs in 49 minutes. But the Grind is a whole different deal. It took me an hour and a half . My friend was clearly disappointed in me, they having finished in under an hour. In the 80s before it was as developed as now I did it regularly in sub 45 minutes.
                      I came down the gondola, immediately bought a seasons pass and a parking pass thinking: %@#$& it, I will beat this thing again. I went every 2nd morning (included BCMC Now that the Grind is closed) for 8 weeks . So yah it's addictive. I can now do it in under an hour. I'm 61 years old. It's addictive.

                      • Grouse Grind photo

                        Posted: December 28, 2017 08:11:02 AM PST

                        Jim from West Vancouver writes:

                        In response to calories burned. It depends on your weight, age, resting heart rate BMI and host of other variables. However......
                        A very fit 30 year old at maximal effort might burn 500 to 600 calories.
                        A fit 50 year old maybe 800
                        An unfit 40 year old 1000.and so in.
                        If you are serious about fitness, get a gps capable watch with a heart rate monitor(chest straps are most accurate). SUUNTO probably is the best coupled with their Movescount portal. Garmin and "garmin connect" are also good.
                        With that you can get a fairly accurate estimate of you calorie burn on any hike or run.

                          Posted: November 12, 2017 12:30:22 PM PST

                          Cristina A from Toronto writes:

                          NIGHTMARE. If you want to know what a near death experience feels like, then make your merry way up the grouse grind. The trail is a steep rocky unstable deadly incline that is never ending. Oh but don't worry, if you lose your footing ever, there's a shady net not even good enough to protect a small child that will save you from the plunge to your death below. If it's raining, don't even bother because every step is into a deep puddle that will most likely lead to hypothermia and potential trench foot. Half way during the hike, the steps just randomly stop which leaves me to believe that the people that were installing the wooden steps literally said f*** it one day. I finally got to the top and decided to treat myself to a well earned box of salmon sushi, I chose the healthy alternative because after hiking up Death Valley for 2 hours the least I was going to get out of it was a calorie burning workout. I burned calories alright, throwing up from the food poisining. Thanks grouse for giving me a life changing experience that left me with potential Medical issues that I didn't have before and for making me shudder every time I hear the word "grind".

                            Posted: September 30, 2017 06:30:11 PM PST

                            Hannah from Vancouver writes:

                            Did the grouse grind for the first time a few weeks ago and loved it. It sure is steep but powered through and finished in 55 minutes! Nice that it's in the shade and out of the sun :)

                              Posted: September 10, 2017 12:20:11 PM PST

                              maria from buenos aires, argentina writes:

                              First difficult hike I ever did in Vancouver. It was probably one of the hardest things I ever did in life, my knees were shaking and I felt dizzy from the lack of air. Took me 2 hours to get to the top but the views are worth it and I felt amazing!

                                Posted: August 31, 2017 12:05:21 AM PST

                                Francis from Coquitlam writes:

                                I did the GG today en route to Goat Mountain. It was my first time doing it in over a year so it was more challenging than I remembered but oddly enough, it was my fastest ascent ever up this trail: 46 min. I know this trail is crowded, lacks views on the way up, and you have to pay to come down but I'm glad Vancouver has this. A great workout nonetheless.

                                  Posted: August 12, 2017 09:00:24 PM PST

                                  Vanessa from Burnaby writes:

                                  I've hiked this trails twice now. I wouldn't consider myself fit by any means, but I do like hiking the easy/intermediate trails on the weekends. My time was 2 hours and 20 minutes (with lots of breaks and a slow pace), and I was quite happy with that. The trail is definitely hard, and can feel relentless at times, but I've found other hikers are generally really nice and encouraging. It amazes me that people can do it in under an hour!

                                    Posted: June 28, 2017 02:01:22 PM PST

                                    LEJ from Milwaukee, WI writes:

                                    I visited Grouse Mountain last March and want to go back to hike it. Does anyone know what the incline level would be on a treadmill to prep for this? Thanks.

                                      Posted: January 20, 2017 07:57:01 PM PST

                                      helen clement from vancouver writes:

                                      Awesome and addictive! #stairwaytoheaven

                                        Posted: November 24, 2016 09:03:25 AM PST

                                        Tanvi Sirari from Vancouver writes:

                                        My first time hiking this one today. My first hike marked as difficult here, though I thought the chief was way harder than this. Nonetheless a great experience. I took a water break every ten white tags and walked slow as people passed me. It took me 1 hour 4o minutes. I had given myself two hours so this was an accomplishment. Such a great well maintained trail and you get to eat cake and hot chocolate up there. Gondola ride for ten bucks saves the knees. If there are more sunny days before they close I will do it again and see if I can reduce my time thought I don't see myself running up. It was tiring but I loved this and at no point I felt I could not finish or wanted to turn around. There was a couple behind us who were talking about how this is killing them, and sat at a bench on the way but even they made it to the top eventually so worth a try. Don't let it intimidate you but don't make it your first hike either.

                                          Posted: October 28, 2016 11:14:41 PM PST

                                          Ken Dillon from Chilliwack writes:

                                          It's a great workout! But I would emphasize the fact at how rocky the terrain is. The trail is extremely well maintained but you literally have to watch where each foot is placed lol. My daughter and I ( 25/52 ) hiked the grind for the first time and loved it. A LOT of people passed us lol ... there are some serious hikers /walkers, plugged in and moving and a wide selection of tourists, unfortunately a few not well prepared in the shoe selection...footwear is critical to enjoying the whole experience . Just a good pair of running shoes. As recommended on the info boards at the beginning... not just water but electrolyte replacement is a good suggestion as well. Can't wait to do it again.

                                          • Grouse Grind photo
                                          • Grouse Grind photo

                                            Posted: August 30, 2016 07:22:37 AM PST

                                            Chad Sichello from Vancouver, BC writes:

                                            I carried our 2-year old daughter up this in our LittleLife backpack on Sunday. With water, jackets, snacks, etc, it was about an additional 40-45lbs of weight on my back. My wife and I did it in about an hour and a half. With my daughter in the pack, it required a lot of scrambling and use of the ropes to make it up. To do it with a little one on your back, make sure your wearing proper footwear, take your time, take as many rests as you need and bring enough water, at least 1.5~2L for yourself. The hike itself is a great workout, there's no views on the way, just stairs, rocks and roots to climb over, the view of Vancouver from the top is great, and worth the climb. I don't believe its safe to walk down with a little one on your back, spend the $10 to take the gondola down.

                                              Posted: August 22, 2016 09:41:31 AM PST

                                              Michelle from Langley writes:

                                              Great hike if you're looking for a workout!! Pretty challenging as it is straight up the whole way, but really worth it at the top. Took my friend and I two hours to make it up as we stopped many many times! You're not allowed to walk back down or turn around during the hike. You must take the gondola back down, which last time I went it was $10

                                                Posted: August 15, 2016 09:03:50 PM PST

                                                Yannick Leclerc from Montreal writes:

                                                Really cool hike and lots of things to see when you reach the top.

                                                  Posted: August 4, 2016 10:58:22 PM PST

                                                  Michelle R from Halifax writes:

                                                  Wow, gruelling, but oh so worth it! Such a sense of achievement when you reach the top.... Lots of water and self encouragement recommended. Truly exhilirating. Definitely recommend the hike and also a visit with the bears.????????

                                                    Posted: August 1, 2016 05:08:18 PM PST

                                                    Danika from Vancouver writes:

                                                    Jay, have you tried to hike BCMC trail? it basically starts and ends at same points as the grind but it is slightly longer. it is also not as steep as the grind. this might give your body a little more time to adjust to the elevation gain. take it easy and see how you feel. hope this helps you :)

                                                      Posted: July 7, 2016 05:57:44 PM PST

                                                      Jay from Surrey writes:

                                                      I have done the Grind three times now, each time I have done worse. I consider myself active, my only problem is I literally cannot breathe and I have had to stop and catch my breath. I have read online about "elevation sickness," does anyone else feel the same way? I have a massive headache by the time I am at the top and feel very tired and nauseous. I am 25 and weigh 140lbs 6"0 female and I follow a rigorous exercise program involving jump training and cardio routines and am a runner. I do not think I am out of shape. Please comment if you or someone else you know feels the same way. I will attempt the grind again. I do have allergies and take a reactine prior to hiking, I assumed maybe I have asthma but I do not wheeze.

                                                        Posted: July 4, 2016 01:56:06 AM PST

                                                        Myra from Langley writes:

                                                        Highly overrated. Although it's a great tool to use as your benchmark in beating your record. I make it a point to hike this trail every year just so I can see my Lumberjacks....lol

                                                        Kidding aside...yes, it is a great workout for those who love doing it outdoors.

                                                          Posted: June 25, 2016 03:16:27 PM PST

                                                          Ally from Burnaby writes:

                                                          This is not a scenic hike, it's a real workout! But, would you rather spend 1hr on a machine in the gym, or outside in the woods??
                                                          The trail is through a lovely forest and it's actually very picturesque. The Grind can be pretty busy, but I like it. It provides the motivation to push yourself. And you feel FANTASTIC when you get to the top.

                                                            Posted: June 15, 2016 08:44:55 PM PST

                                                            cj from new west writes:

                                                            what's there to say that hasnt been said already?
                                                            i'll just recap the points:

                                                            -its not a nature walk, its a stairmaster
                                                            -if you hear someone catch up to you politely let them pass when there's space
                                                            -if you're the one catching up to someone, politely ask them to pass if they aren't giving you the opportunity. just say, "excuse me" or "on your left"
                                                            -bring 1L of water if you're an average drinker. if in doubt bring more.
                                                            -dont go in jeans or anything less than running shoes
                                                            -pace yourself in the first half if you want to survive the second half

                                                              Posted: June 2, 2016 06:26:59 PM PST

                                                              Jessica from Abbotsford writes:

                                                              This hike is really good if you're looking to shake up your fitness routine, but not so great if you're looking for a nature walk. The only time you get to see a great view is once you've made it to the top. I would rank my fitness level as beginner, and it took an hour and a half to complete. I've done the trail a few times and the only time it felt congested was on a Saturday afternoon and filled with people who obviously didn't know too much about the grind as I saw lots of jeans, flip flops, dresses etc even a girl reading in the trees. The gondola down is only $10 and I wouldn't recommend walking down if it's on the weekend because of the crowds, but if it's a weekday morning all the power to you. Please be safe

                                                                Posted: March 13, 2016 05:44:22 PM PST

                                                                Grinderman from Richmond writes:

                                                                You DON'T have to take the gondola down. This is GVRD property and no one is under any obligation to pay the private ski hill operator (who opposed the Grouse Grind from the onset) to take the gondola down. There is plenty of space just off the Grind to make an uncrowded trip back down at your own leisure.

                                                                And yes, the Grind is a great hike. My only problem is the people yelling at and forcing their crying children for not hiking fast enough. Yeah yeah, you want your kids to toughen up- but can you please you do it without so much misery?

                                                                  Posted: March 1, 2016 05:30:04 PM PST

                                                                  Tak McT. from Vancouver writes:

                                                                  If you want a good workout, do the Grind. High steps from bottom to top, lots of people trying to beat their previous record, lots of non-locals seeing what the buzz is about.

                                                                  There is only one pathway up, and you have to pay to get down (via the gondola)

                                                                  If you want some exercise at your own pace with a nice view, less people, wider spaces, go for a real hike elsewhere.

                                                                  I'm more a hiker than a grinder, so maybe it's understandable to say that the Grind is always congested to meet people's expectations and needs.

                                                                    Posted: September 17, 2015 05:10:58 AM PST

                                                                    Roger Hook from Bournemouth, England writes:

                                                                    My wife and I (68 & 62 respectively) had just completed a 7 day cruise up the Inside Passage on the ship Noordam and had therefore been very well indulged. All we knew of the Grind was what the free bus driver had told us on the way over. We set off at 10:50 and were immediately dismayed by the rubbly terrain and the depth of the initial steps. However, after some hesitation we decided to continue and the first 1/4 seemed to be s very long haul. We took regular rest pauses and completed the Grind in exactly 2 hours and enjoyed a degree of satisfaction. It is an excellent test for the cardio-vascular system. Fortunately the trees shelter the sun on hot or warm days. Well worth doing!

                                                                      Posted: August 31, 2015 12:44:16 PM PST

                                                                      D. Elwood from Burnaby writes:

                                                                      The yearly membership, Grind timer, and parking pass (< $200) is definitely $ well spent. It's absolutely the best rate for a 6-month "personal trainer."

                                                                        Posted: August 29, 2015 11:54:55 PM PST

                                                                        Earl from West Vacouver writes:

                                                                        $$$$129 for annual pass, $20 for Grind Timer, $40 for annual pass. And the worse is trail steps are commercialized , mother nature is almost gone....

                                                                        Not so welcomed on August 2015 :(

                                                                          Posted: August 25, 2015 10:57:31 PM PST

                                                                          Len Whistler from Vancouver writes:

                                                                          I went up the Grouse Grind for the 1st time on Sunday, June 28. My only concern during the climb was when I ran out of water before the 3/4 mark - but I made it to the top safely. For 1st timers during hot weather (30C) I recommend one litre of water.

                                                                          It took me 2 hours at an even pace of 30 minutes per 1/4 mark with lots of resting break.

                                                                            Posted: June 29, 2015 09:38:47 PM PST

                                                                            J from Richmond B.C writes:

                                                                            I've done the grind 3 times this year
                                                                            since it has opened with my sister. We love it. It can get intense but the feeling when you get to the top is worth it. They improved the trail since last year and it is awesome. If it is your first time remember it's mind over matter, you do not have to run up the thing but I find if you stop and look up you will find it is hard to keep going, just take it one step at a time even if it's at a snails pace, breathing is important too. If you're looking to step up you're workout the grind is a great way to do it.

                                                                              Posted: June 28, 2015 03:25:07 PM PST

                                                                              Doug from Columbus, Ohio writes:

                                                                              The Grind was as described and more work than expecte. My very fit 23 year old son pushed himself and did the climb in 55 min and as a 55 yo unfit man I took 2 hr and 50 min. We both expressed surprise that when it felt we were at least half way up, we had not reached the 1/4 mark yet--I took small steps and lots of breaks with the goal of making the top. I was a slow and steady climber but I did not try to push my heart rate or break any records. It is definitely a stress test for one's heart and if a person has any serious concerns about their medical condition I would not recommend this hike as once on the trail there is no fast or easy way to get true emergency help, get out or descend. We had a great day and Vancouver was beautiful beneath us on the sunny day from the top-well worth the hike or a gondola ride up to see.

                                                                                Posted: June 27, 2015 09:15:07 AM PST

                                                                                Rick from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                Some of their staff need to improve their customer service. Last night when I asked one of their staff (long haired guy w/ cap who was walking around lumber Jack area) what time gondola service operates 'till and he was too arrogant to answer my question. Made very uncomfortable feeling. Geez

                                                                                  Posted: June 26, 2015 10:36:30 AM PST

                                                                                  Linda from Port Coquitlam writes:

                                                                                  Today was my first Grouse Grind and although I broke no records that was never my intent. With the help and encouragement from my daughter I did it in 3 hours and 20 minutes. We were passed by many others but only one had a nasty comment all others offered nothing but encouragement. Very proud of myself at the ripe old age of 64

                                                                                    Posted: May 23, 2015 05:30:38 PM PST

                                                                                    Francis from Coquitlam writes:

                                                                                    I did this hike solo yesterday. After reading how crowded it can be I decided to tackle it first thing in the morning. As it was my first time ever doing anything like this I was a bit nervous. It feels like it goes on forever but once you're at the top it's such an amazing feeling. Took me just under an hour to finish.

                                                                                    Although it was challenging and felt like it would never end it was not as arduous as I expected and certainly within my limits. I plan on doing the Grind a few more times in the summer as well as some of the backcountry trails such as Crown Mountain and Hanes Valley.

                                                                                      Posted: May 9, 2015 09:33:57 PM PST

                                                                                      Melodie from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                      I love the grind, it builds up my strength and endurance like no other exercise. Even on days I don't feel like doing my best I'm still forced to work hard...absolutely love it!

                                                                                      For those whom are wondering the conditions have been great lately, just a little bit of wetness from the most current snowfall that is in the middle of melting away. Most of the snow if not all of it is gone.

                                                                                      Officially the grind is closed, parts of the trail is missing and other areas are almost fully blocked due to construction materials. I'd advise people to stay off from the grind until they officially open, it seems pretty dangerous to me. BCMC trail is your best bet for the meantime, it's about 1.5 times in length and not as steep but just as good as of a workout =]

                                                                                      As for a calorie count I average around 650 calories when I complete the grind. I average about 50 mins to complete the grind...just enough to treat myself to their delicious poutine afterwards.

                                                                                      Hope to see you up here, happy grinding!

                                                                                        Posted: April 8, 2015 12:11:45 PM PST

                                                                                        Ammario from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                        The grind is my favorite thing about living in North Vancouver,it's more of an addiction for myself and my family, started hitting the trails last Nov and hasn't missed a week, rain or shine!

                                                                                          Posted: March 29, 2015 04:38:03 PM PST

                                                                                          Melody from Port Moody writes:

                                                                                          Yes, I too am itching to get up Grouse soon, for the first time! Ive been "training" for it, running/walking up Coquitlam Crunch and regularly hiking up and down Burnaby Mt, but they are approx 320m elev and Grouse Grind is 853m elev. Im getting bored with my hills, whats another hike that I can do thats about 500m elev?

                                                                                            Posted: March 19, 2015 08:42:41 PM PST

                                                                                            meg from vancouver writes:

                                                                                            has anyone been up lately - how are the conditions?

                                                                                              Posted: March 13, 2015 11:46:20 AM PST

                                                                                              Jo from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                              I absolutely agree with the previous comment - It would be great to know approx. calories burned doing the GG. I have searched everywhere but can't find this information.

                                                                                                Posted: February 21, 2015 11:21:42 PM PST

                                                                                                Dave from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                Opps that's of course back southwest not southeast to the entrance from that point.

                                                                                                  Posted: December 17, 2014 05:27:47 PM PST

                                                                                                  Dave from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                  Hi Pratik. Officially the GGs closed now for winter however this doesn't mean some like myself have shut it down for the year. You can find an unofficial, unmarked entrance through the trees near the end of the parking lot directly blow the official entrance. You hike up approx 20m, then diagonally back south east for the official start. Or rarely someone may be there to kindly let you in the front gate etc ;)
                                                                                                  I completed two grinds yesterday evening with a bright Petzl headlamp. Despite some wetter conditions, and a thin snow layer the last 100m elevation, I still found traction wholly sufficient with regular running shoes. This was also at 38min tempos so of course with heavier footwear and slower more cautious foot placements it'd even more reasonable! GL getting up there for a great post New Year's eve cleanse!!

                                                                                                    Posted: December 17, 2014 05:23:23 PM PST

                                                                                                    Pratik from Chicago writes:

                                                                                                    Is this trail open in winter? I plan to visit Vancouver around New Year

                                                                                                      Posted: December 3, 2014 02:24:18 PM PST

                                                                                                      Stephen Wan from Mississauga writes:

                                                                                                      Will it be open at the end of Oct?

                                                                                                        Posted: October 22, 2014 04:38:49 PM PST

                                                                                                        Margriet from Plimmerton (New Zealand) writes:

                                                                                                        Most difficult thing I have ever done (short of giving birth) but proud to say I completed the climb in 1 hr 45 mins, not too bad for a 54 year old. Loved the things to see at the top - the view, the bears, lumberjack show and the wild birds.

                                                                                                        If I lived in Vancouver I would put make this a regular entry on my exercise calendar.

                                                                                                          Posted: October 19, 2014 07:12:28 PM PST

                                                                                                          Walt Sisson from Washington DC writes:

                                                                                                          Are there groups that head out from the city to hike? I'll be in town later this month and looking for a ride on a Saturday or Tuesday.


                                                                                                            Posted: October 7, 2014 11:25:12 AM PST

                                                                                                            Amir from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                            DJ Gonzalez you can start the grind as early as 7am. For a first timer who considers himself pretty fit maybe aim for 1 hour 10 mins. I tend to do it in about 45 mins but Im on the mountain once a week. Let me know how it goes.

                                                                                                              Posted: September 8, 2014 08:25:06 PM PST

                                                                                                              DJ Gonzalez from WASHINGTON DC writes:

                                                                                                              Coming to Vancouver next week for biz and a friend suggested I do the Grind. What is the earliest in the day it can be used and what's a solid time for a pretty fit 45 year old?

                                                                                                                Posted: September 3, 2014 05:31:04 PM PST

                                                                                                                Brian from New Westminster writes:

                                                                                                                This was my wife's and my first time on the Grind. We read with interest and gratitude the comments posted below and many of the suggestions were helpful. We wore good shoes, carried a litre of water for each of us, bananas granola bars and we took lots of short breaks on the way up. It took us 2 & 1/2 hours to complete; as it was our first time we took our time and are glad of that suggestion as today we are not suffering any pain. We'll definitely be doing the Grind again and now that we know what to expect, it will hopefully be a little easier. I commend the folks at Grouse Mountain and the City of Vancouver for keeping the Grind in such excellent condition. I also echo the comment by another poster, shame on the folks who leave litter on the trail; come on folks carry your garbage out eh.

                                                                                                                  Posted: August 26, 2014 09:18:36 PM PST

                                                                                                                  C Stew from Here in lower island writes:

                                                                                                                  Muggy and cloudy but still went up BCMC and down the Grind .... still hurtin. A good hurtin with lotsa beer!! Gotta try it folks. !!!!! CVS

                                                                                                                    Posted: August 18, 2014 07:16:40 PM PST

                                                                                                                    Darnell from Renton writes:

                                                                                                                    I just did the Grind for the first time ever after hearing about 2 weeks ago from family. I figured i'd do the hike with my wife after riding the RSVP. Well, I made it to Vancouver from Bellingham around 1330. Just shy of 87 miles on top of 136 miles the previous day. Anyway, had a quick lunch then drove to the grind. We finished the grind in 1.5 hours. Overall, it was nice walk. Dont think I would want to do it after riding over 200 miles again though.

                                                                                                                    GO SCCA/Starbucks cycling team!

                                                                                                                      Posted: August 18, 2014 04:17:11 AM PST

                                                                                                                      G from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                      The Grind is a for a workout or a challenge. That's about it. If you want a slightly more leisure hike, then do the BCMC next to it. If it's your first time, there's no reason to rush. Everyone is always in such a big rush to prove themselves the first time. It shouldn't be about that and it should really be about pushing yourself to completion. It can be as hard as you want it to be. Break every 5 mins or run the whole way up. That's why it's such a good workout. Plus you get to enjoy things at the top. Yes... it cost $10 to come down but that's a decent price for being able to do most of the things on the mountain. For those complaining, you do realize it costs over $40 just to go up and down the gondola normally right? $10 is a steal.

                                                                                                                      Wear athletic clothes and shoes. Runners are fine if your fairly active, just keep in mind that sometimes it's wet and it's rocky so don't wear a new pair that you love. If you have weak ankles or aren't so great with balance, then wear something more supportive. If you're spending time at the top, bring a light jacket because it will be cold after being drenched with sweat.

                                                                                                                      The average time is about 1.5 hrs. It can be significantly more, or less. Don't concern yourself over it especially if it's your first time. You should be proud to complete it and the next time you visit, you can try for a personal best.

                                                                                                                        Posted: August 16, 2014 08:15:20 AM PST

                                                                                                                        Don from burnaby writes:

                                                                                                                        just did it on Sunday with my 3-3/4 year old boy. he didn't have any idea that it was considered by some to be a tough walk, so he we just leisurely walked up the hill in 3.25 hours. we stopped basically twice for water, bananas and grapes ( and a gel for dad), at 1/2 and 3/4, and had a good leisurely sit at 9/10. for the top quarter, I did a lot of helping him by pushing him up the steps under his elbows mostly, but I never carried him and I myself wasn't tired at the top, since my pace was nice & easy, and I enjoyed the scenery a lot :) a lot of hikers were impressed and I think little Oscar was a good motivator for people :) at the top, he RAN as well. Kids that young are incredibly strong, especially when in their natural habitat (nature). they don't think of it as anything but fun! which is was. HE LOVED the sky ride down too (only paid for me $10) he squealed with joy, first time ever in a cable car :):) what a great reward. he also got to see a helicopter take off from ~100metres away, so cool !!! my only advice, make sure they are potty trained, I had to change some pants ;) or being pull ups or whatever you absorb with :) Cheers!

                                                                                                                          Posted: July 28, 2014 12:30:01 PM PST

                                                                                                                          Marc from North Van writes:

                                                                                                                          Having done it many times myself, today we did it as a family. My wife (43) and kids 11,10, and 4 (yes FOUR) did it just under two hrs.

                                                                                                                          Great family fun, well worth the $40 to download to the car.

                                                                                                                            Posted: July 8, 2014 03:46:47 PM PST

                                                                                                                            Pierre Imlay from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                            I'm 50 and this is the first time I did the Grousse Grind in about 8 years. I'm in relatively good shape and exercise regularly but still found it quite challenging. I did it this time around because a friend of mine who is in excellent shape convinced me to accompany hin. I have to admit I'm not a big fan. Unless you are rally focused on a "solid" cardio workout and extending it, then I would take a pass. The view from the top is quite nice though. I would rather be playing tennis, or badminton, or riding my bike.

                                                                                                                              Posted: July 7, 2014 09:55:04 AM PST

                                                                                                                              Alan from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                              Hi Felicity,

                                                                                                                              1. If this is your first time walk up and not doing it for speed/time, than no need for training. Even if you need a break after every 5-10 minutes, you will arrive in 90-120 minutes.
                                                                                                                              2. You may need more than 10 bucks for food/drinks and the sales tax.
                                                                                                                              3. No flip flops or "lifestyle" shoes please. You will step on stairs made of rock and wood. Most shoes you usually wear outdoor is ok.
                                                                                                                              4. No nightgown or jeans. Unless you plan the beat the clock, any shorts and T-shirt is sufficient. (during summer season)

                                                                                                                              Even if you need a break after every 5-10 minutes, you will arrive in 90-120 minutes.

                                                                                                                                Posted: June 29, 2014 02:09:22 AM PST

                                                                                                                                Felicity from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                I have a couple of questions:

                                                                                                                                1) is training specifically for the grouse grind necessary?

                                                                                                                                2) is it alright if I bring nothing but $10, a water bottle, and my phone with earbuds?

                                                                                                                                3) are running shoes alright or do I have to wear trail shoes?

                                                                                                                                4) should I wear very sporty like lulu lemon top and shorts, or should I wear something more like just normal running shorts with a random casual tshirt?

                                                                                                                                Thank you so much!!

                                                                                                                                  Posted: June 28, 2014 06:45:24 PM PST

                                                                                                                                  Kris from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                  The grouse grind is like a giant stair climber. It is not a gentle hike, but is good training for suffer fests of longer distances (i.e. steep trail races).

                                                                                                                                  1.5 hours is a very reasonable amount of time to get up in. I did it with my parents - who are admittedly non - exercisers and they got up in 1.5 hours. I managed it in about 47 minutes - with brisk hiking and very little running.

                                                                                                                                  The less you carry the better - but bottle of water is nice to have. Decent running shoes are sufficient - you don't need trail shoes for the Grouse Grind

                                                                                                                                  If you want to do it for time - I would suggest going earlier in the day - by 10:30 am on a Saturday it is already super crowded.

                                                                                                                                    Posted: May 24, 2014 07:30:02 PM PST

                                                                                                                                    David Coleman from Liverpool UK writes:

                                                                                                                                    I climbed the Grouse in May 2013 at age 70 just sneaking in at 2 hours I have trained and competed for over 50 years with weights and road running and rightly gave the hike the respect it deserved by preparing
                                                                                                                                    Even so I found the last 20 minutes testing but luckily my son gave some gentle "lies" about the distance remaining ("its just around the next bend") and the icing was the applause a lady gave me at the finish
                                                                                                                                    I would like to say I would be repeating this hike but I think I will avail myself of other Vancouver highlights on my future annual visits
                                                                                                                                    What I do like to cherish though is the great achievement and pride I will always feel as a truly "blooded" honorary Vancouverite

                                                                                                                                      Posted: April 5, 2014 09:31:52 AM PST

                                                                                                                                      grace from abbotsford writes:

                                                                                                                                      hello :)

                                                                                                                                      I am 15 and did the grind twice. the first time I went with my step mom and my auntie. it took us just over 2 hours. the second time was two weeks after that and I made sure I came more prepared! this time I went at my own speed and made it in one hour and five minutes.

                                                                                                                                      being prepared is such a huge factor! brining lots of water is so good. the first time I didn't bring much and regretted it!

                                                                                                                                      also, when your going, its best to keep your pace and keep it going. try not to stop, cuz once you stop you don't want to get going again which makes it harder.

                                                                                                                                      god luck to anyone who is going ! :)

                                                                                                                                        Posted: November 11, 2013 12:09:53 PM PST

                                                                                                                                        JM from Fort McMurray writes:

                                                                                                                                        Are people serious complaining about paying $10 for the ride back down?!?!?!
                                                                                                                                        It's $10 people!! Get over it!

                                                                                                                                          Posted: October 26, 2013 03:41:44 PM PST

                                                                                                                                          Maureen from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                                          I just turned 65 and did the Grouse Grind last weekend for the first time. It rained so hard that we were as wet on the inside as we were on the outside. No worries about sweating or mosquitoes though. :-) It was definately the most difficult challenge I've ever done and honestly I wanted to quit before I started. However, when you finally reach the top (for me just over 2 hours later) it is the most fabulous feeling of achievement and your fellow climbers are a great cheering crowd. So let no one say you can't do it! Just take your time and other climber's advice. Another big one off my bucket list.

                                                                                                                                            Posted: September 30, 2013 06:24:20 PM PST

                                                                                                                                            Brent from Surrey writes:

                                                                                                                                            I hiked my first solo Grind today. I had hiked it last year with my wife, in her 50s, and I was 47. It took at least 2 hours.
                                                                                                                                            Today, it took 1:20. I was surprised at how relentless the climb is, steep and rugged. Guess I didn't notice it as much last year because we took many more breaks.
                                                                                                                                            It was quite rough for me on a few occasions, just had to stop and stabilize. Soldier on and know your limits.

                                                                                                                                              Posted: August 27, 2013 11:55:15 PM PST

                                                                                                                                              Dick from Coquitlam writes:

                                                                                                                                              I'm 59 and yes, more than a little overweight. This season I've been up the Grind 14 times so far. Going there twice a week makes the summer pass so quickly! I've not been able to get anything better than 1hr 40mins this year. I'm asking for tips on breathing. Do you guys - who make it look so easy -breathe through the nose or mouth? And, for how long do you hold? I try not to stop but find I have to especially from around the half way mark if only for a few seconds. Any other suggestions - apart from dieting, I'm trying! - on strategy will be welcome. I found counting those 40 Green/White markers very helpful.

                                                                                                                                                Posted: August 16, 2013 06:17:11 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                Eric Mulholland from Burnaby writes:

                                                                                                                                                I am 60 now so I thought I should try the grind and see how I do. It was 1 hour and 41 minutes which seemed slower than I had hoped - cousin Jack did it in an hour which was very good. I took my time and breaks at the quarter and half signs. Monday morning by 9:13 am and the number of hikers was okay. Lots of workout types and older folks passing me. Quite polite passers and good wishes from others. If you have not done mountain hiking you might be impressed/discouraged by the relentless rise. I found good boots, taking smaller steps and few breaks, one liter of water, walking poles and trail mix quite handy. I took my time at the top and found the water fountain out front. I have enjoyed the shows there with my tourist friends in the past. I do not mind the ten dollars for a multi-million dollar staffed Gondola ride down.

                                                                                                                                                One negative comment - I would like to personally poke all the idiots that discard water bottles and other debris etc. along the way uphill - I have assessed them all a 30 minute time penalty on their personal best time.

                                                                                                                                                  Posted: August 14, 2013 05:16:32 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                  Nishan from Brisbane, Australia writes:

                                                                                                                                                  Amazing workout. Actually there are two good spots where there is quite a nice view of the city (although when you get up to the top there are even better views). Sure there are some bugs - but its not big deal. What an incredible mountain. I highly recommend it to anyone - the adrenaline rush at the end of it is just awesome. The gondola ride at dusk is to die for - the most spectacular views of Vancouver you could ever see. Along the way people are extremely friendly.

                                                                                                                                                    Posted: August 9, 2013 06:51:28 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                    Carmen from Mexico DF writes:

                                                                                                                                                    Que increible experiencia!! No puedo creer que llegue a la cima de la montana. Este fue mi segundo intento. La primera vez solo llegue 30 minutos despues de empezar a caminar. Me siento muy orgullosa de mi misma. Lo que me ayudo mucho fue que mi esposo me estaba animando todo el tiempo de que yo si podia hacerlo. Las personas que lo hacen todo el tiempo, eran muy amables con nosotros y nos daban mucho animo. Una mujer me dio repelente para los moscos. Tambien un hombre como de 83 anos fue mi inspiracion, eso fue por lo que llegue hasta la cima. Extraordinaria experiencia.

                                                                                                                                                      Posted: July 26, 2013 03:46:37 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                      Trish from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                                                      Blue - couldn't agree with your comments more. And Jenny - thanks for your input. :)

                                                                                                                                                        Posted: July 6, 2013 10:53:42 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                        kamelia from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                        Re: to Karen

                                                                                                                                                        I need to review the whole experience (the hiking trail AND the top of the mountain).

                                                                                                                                                        I mentioned that hiking Grouse Grind trail was good...I was talking about the bugs mainly at the top of the mountain(that is after you finish your hike although the bugs start to appear -noticeably in the last quarter). Of course, I need to complain about the bugs because I would like to enjoy the top of the mountain once I am done with my hiking.
                                                                                                                                                        Yes, I should have taken my repellent. But, I still hope that they do something about the fliers over there.

                                                                                                                                                          Posted: July 6, 2013 02:32:47 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                          Karen from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                          re: the comment about bugs - LOL...what is there to do about bugs may I ask??? How is Grouse Mtn (or any other hiking trail) responsible for the bugs? I just did Mt. Seymour..and yep, bugs! I think the idea is to use bug spray...no?


                                                                                                                                                            Posted: July 4, 2013 11:53:56 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                            Anna from Northshore writes:

                                                                                                                                                            Hi Everyone,
                                                                                                                                                            Re the bugs, make sure you bring a tiny bottle of repellent and apply at the bottom. Depending on how much you sweat, you may have to re-apply at start of fourth quarter. Agree with the comments that this is NOT a hike - it's a work out. If you must wash up, keep water & a towel in your car and wipe yourself down at the bottom. Making a mess in the bathrooms at the top is NOT COOL.

                                                                                                                                                              Posted: July 2, 2013 10:53:37 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                              Kamelia from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                              Hello hikers,

                                                                                                                                                              I hiked today Grouse Grind. It was good But I was disappointed that the top of the mountain is filled with mosquitoes and black flies. We could not enjoy the activities over there such seeing the grizzlies and so on. We had this problem since last summer (our 1st time ever to hike GG). I wrote to them but they never replied...

                                                                                                                                                              Quite frankly, it is very annoying to be attacked by all these flies on the top. In fact, we knew we were about to reach the top of the mountain when we started to have some flies towards the end of the last 1/4 of the trail..

                                                                                                                                                              Have you been annoyed by these flies or you just do not give a damn :-)

                                                                                                                                                                Posted: July 1, 2013 01:55:51 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                Angela from Surrey writes:

                                                                                                                                                                I agree with others that have said this is NOT a nature hike. This is a workout. Period. Not a hike you want to take your visiting aunts/uncles...unless they're already into fitness lol. Also agreed that there is not much to 'see' as you are focused on the next step and wondering how much lonnnnnnger lol. And if you don't want to pay for the Gondola down - don't. Take the BCMC trail back down (to the far right of the GG once you arrive at the top). Takes about 1hr 10 mins at a steady pace. More calories to burn...but if you have bad knees..maybe not so good for them. :)

                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: June 26, 2013 04:33:17 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                  Brendan Pecht from Issaquah wa writes:

                                                                                                                                                                  I did the Grind a few days ago and it was the most challenging hike ive been on. Took about 2.5 hours. Making it to the top was a great feeling.

                                                                                                                                                                  Next time I will take less rest breaks,
                                                                                                                                                                  bring 2 bottles of water instead of 1,
                                                                                                                                                                  and look down instead of up.
                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks to other comments!

                                                                                                                                                                  It was crowded but everyone was polite and patient. I'm impressed by the many
                                                                                                                                                                  different ages of people who I saw on the hike.

                                                                                                                                                                  This experience has inspired me to attempt other hikes in my hometown that i wouldnt have considered before.
                                                                                                                                                                  I'm 47, 6'1" , 200 pounds.

                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: June 25, 2013 09:12:55 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                    Chris Ludwig from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                                                                    Hello Alex. Yes, http://www.chrisludwig.com is my site, and you are welcome to contact me through my site to pick my brain. I definitely have a top 10 list of my own for Southwestern B.C. I have only climbed routes on Mt. Baker and Mt. Rainier in the U.S., so my experience south of the border is limited.

                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: June 24, 2013 06:42:01 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                      Alex from Portland, OR, usa writes:

                                                                                                                                                                      Chris Ludwig, I'd be interested to hear your top hikes you've been on, especially in the pacific northwest, thanks!


                                                                                                                                                                      P.s. is this you? http://www.chrisludwig.com/interests.htm

                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: June 23, 2013 09:41:49 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                        Hannah Hidalgo from San Francisco writes:

                                                                                                                                                                        Hiking Boots or Tennis Shoes? Since its rocky and uneven, I wasn't sure which to wear. I don't want to end up twisting my ankle like that time I hiked up mt.tallac in Tahoe.

                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: June 23, 2013 05:38:32 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                          Chris Ludwig from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                                                                          I agree with all of your points Kristi. If you treat the Grind as an extended gym workout in the woods, then I think that is the proper perspective; and the Grind for that reason alone can be very worthwhile for many. I do take issue with your implication that a nature hike is more casual compared to the Grind. I have hiked trails that make the Grind look like a walk in Stanley Park! For that reason, I believe that some variety is critical, especially when your fitness level exceeds the limits of the Grind. Just as in the gym, increasing resistance leads to greater fitness. If you simply repeat the same routine over and over again, even with modest increases in your speed/time, your body simply becomes more efficient at what it does rather than increasing in strength, cardio and stamina. An example are those that run on the treadmill every day at the same speed for the same amount of time. This is simply maintenance with no improvement. Adding a weighted backpack can accomplish great improvement very quickly - just a suggestion. Do be careful when doing the Grind with a backpack to start, as you can raise your heart rate to dangerous levels if your body isn't used to it. I nearly passed out twice by going too fast with too much weight.
                                                                                                                                                                          Grind away!

                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: June 21, 2013 02:23:57 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                            Kristi from North Van from BC writes:

                                                                                                                                                                            (1) the grind is not a nature hike. It's called mother natures stair master for a reason. Hike the Baden Powell to Lynn valley from grouse if your looking for a nature hike.
                                                                                                                                                                            (2) there are no showers on top and the bathrooms are not meant to be used as bathtubs. Wipe yourself off and go back down. The Observatory is fine dining so don't expect entry in dirty sweaty hiking clothes just because you want to. Their dress code is the same as any other fine dining restaurant.
                                                                                                                                                                            (3) the grind is free if you don't take the tram. If you decide to use the tram (something that costs money to run with staff that are fully trained on how to evac you out of there should an emergency arise) you need to pay for it. Why would it be free? Do you expect the bus to be free when you decide to use it?
                                                                                                                                                                            (4) complain about grouse mountain on a different forum. Grouse does not own the grind. Message metro Vancouver with any complaints as they own, run, and maintain it.
                                                                                                                                                                            (5) getting to the top is a huge accomplishment so pat yourself on the back!
                                                                                                                                                                            (6) if you can't do all the above, go somewhere else. There's tons of great hiking on the north shore and elsewhere in metro Vancouver.

                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: June 20, 2013 07:54:39 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                              Val from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                              The Grouse Grind is not a 'hike' for me, it is purely a fitness activity. Get a timer and see where you stand in your age group, it's pretty motivating.

                                                                                                                                                                              On my most recent Grind (this past week) I passed a man and his daughter (the girl was maybe 9 - 11 yrs old). The man was relentlessly 'encouraging' his daughter to keep up with him and keep going. Words cannot describe how much I wanted to tell this blowhard to shut the hell up but you gotta play it safe so as not to get thrown down the mountain by some psycho.

                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, ego runs rampant up there and if nothing else, the Grind is a great opportunity to reign in your own.

                                                                                                                                                                              I wish they had showers up there for us. Even pay showers? I'd be more inclined to eat at the restaurant afterward and make it a real outing.

                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: June 19, 2013 11:52:41 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                Blue from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                If you're looking for a pleasant, peaceful, scenic hike, the Grouse Grind is not for you. The name says it all...the Grind is a pure workout. If you're like me - motivated to improve your fitness but prone to getting lazy partway through a workout - the Grind is perfect. Walking back down the trail is not permitted, so the only way out is up! And if you stop to rest for too long the bugs will find you, which also keeps me moving. I did the Grind last weekend and there were some hungry mosquitoes at the top.

                                                                                                                                                                                All I bring with me is a small running waistpack with a water bottle, money for the gondola to get back down, and my phone. I don't wear headphones because I think it's good courtesy to be aware of other hikers coming up behind me who may want to pass. I also try to keep to one side of the trail whenever it's wide enough for people to pass. I couldn't imagine doing the Grind in heavy hiking boots. Some might find the terrain very rough, and I do recommend shoes with good traction when the trail is wet, but for me light runners are fine.

                                                                                                                                                                                I try to arrive at the base parking lot between 8:00 and 8:30am. By 8:30am, parking starts to get scarce. This is a good time to start up the trail too, because it's not too crowded yet.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: June 18, 2013 05:29:14 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                  FioB from Lower Mainland writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                  Disgusting quality when it comes to the washrooms. Totally unacceptable inconsistency in the washroom upkeep. VERY OFTEN out of soap or paper and most times the counter area is soaked all over due to the Grouse Grinders washing up. Grouse Mountain is overwhelmed when it comes to their bathroom situation. You might see one on a good day but 4/5 times they are a HUGE disappointment. Grouse Mountain should be "free" for everyone since their bathrooms are comparable to some of the worst I've seen. Disgusting. DO NOT go to Grouse Mountain for lunch or dinner. The bathroom might ruin your outing. Choose a place that is better run and actually deserves your money. Do not visit Grouse Mountain. Overpriced for the quality they offer. Way overpriced.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: June 17, 2013 09:05:58 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                    Chris Ludwig from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                    I have been mountaineering and hiking for over 20 years ranging from day hikes to remote icefields.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Of the hundred+ trips I have made, the Grouse Grind would rate in the bottom three. I beg of everybody, do not take a friend new to hiking to the Grind. The Grind is anything but a typical outdoor/hiking experience: with no view until the top, and crowds with egos to burn, there is little bang for the buck. Seymour and Cypress are infinitely more enjoyable. Better yet, get to Garibaldi Park if you can.
                                                                                                                                                                                    If all you know is the Grind, you may think it is good. Hiking, however, is about quiet, solitude, self reliance, and connecting with nature on its terms (and of course diversity of terrain and views is good too). The Grind doesn't offer any of that.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Honestly, I prefer bush-wacking through steep logging slash more than the Grind (no joke). I know I am being harsh. But I desperately want everyone to experience the true joy of hiking.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Please choose something else for your own sake. If you must hike Grouse Mountain, Goat, Crown, etc. choose a different route as ALL the alternatives are better. I also find it interesting that the Gondola on Grouse is the same price as lift tickets for the Peak 2 Peak in Whistler. Which is better value do you think?
                                                                                                                                                                                    Happy hiking!

                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: June 13, 2013 10:14:24 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                      Carolina Barreto from Coquitlam writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                      hello all,

                                                                                                                                                                                      if you want to track time and calories wasted use this app: sports tracker [http://www.sports-tracker.com/] -- it's so easy to use...

                                                                                                                                                                                      enjoy the grind!


                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: June 6, 2013 03:19:17 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                        JMS from VANCOUVER writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                        Grouse Grind!

                                                                                                                                                                                        Experience is always great! awesome sense of accomplishment!

                                                                                                                                                                                        GG: You should post a table or list of approx calories burned... I search on-line for calories burned on the Grouse Grind and I'm lead to links ... blogs with looong long stories to sift through.

                                                                                                                                                                                        scanning I saw anywhere from 850-13000!! calories... (must be typo)

                                                                                                                                                                                        Thank you

                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: June 5, 2013 02:29:51 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                          Jenny from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                          Trish - I have heard from a number of experienced "Grinders" that the markers are measured by vertical gain (i.e., height!) and not by the length of the trail. :) (I.e., you're more than 1/4th of the way "along" the trail when you get to the quarter mark, but are 1/4th "up" the mountain.)

                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: May 26, 2013 05:55:36 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                            Trish from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                            Just out of curiosity, are the1/4, 1/2, etc markers for distance of trail or height?

                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: May 25, 2013 09:35:41 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                              Freeman Zhang from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                              When will the Grouse Grind open for 2013?

                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: May 2, 2013 05:14:01 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                Michiel from Tsawwassen writes:


                                                                                                                                                                                                Does anyone know any place to take a shower afterwards?

                                                                                                                                                                                                I drive up to the Grind from Tsawwassen on a regular basis. Would like to be able to clean up afterwards so I can do other things in Vancouver before driving home.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: April 30, 2013 11:11:53 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                  cs from upstate NY writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                  There are hardcore fitness nuts who cruise up this at a running pace but for normal reasonably fit people who just like to hike/walk, it is very do-able without pain. I'm 45 and don't do any regular exercise but used to climb a lot oh, 20 yrs ago. If you take it slow and use a mountaineers rest step, you don't even have to breathe heavily though it will seem like half the world is passing you. It also helps to walk sort of zigzag so as not to have to take huge steps up (ok, I'm only 5 ft tall so I kind of have to do this). You can probably only do that if it is rainy, a weekday and past peak season when it isn't crowded. Made it in 80 min. Actually wanted to hike back down via the BCMC or whatever cuz I felt so good at the top but didn't know where the path started and the info people were purposefully discouraging saying it was poorly marked, slippery and not monitored so unless you already knew the trail, don't go.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bonus was taking the little path from the parking lot to see two of the white wolves close up that a fellow passenger had pointed out from the skylift on the way down
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not sure what folks are complaining about - bathrooms upstairs are beautiful and the coffee drinks/baked goods are the same as any Starbucks if not cheaper. No views on the hike but very nice forest all around and you aren't really gonna be concentrating on anything but your feet anyway. $10 is not a deal but trail is extensively maintained and that costs $$

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: October 18, 2012 04:32:24 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Vivian from Winnipeg writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Vasyl from Burnaby- really you go on and one with your litany of complaints? I hiked the Grind when I was visiting Vancouver last month and thought it was a fantastic experience. Who cares about all of the so called problems that you point out? Stop being such a whiner, pack a lunch and some water or don't bother. I live on the prairies, you should consider yourself lucky that you have this beautiful mountain and it's experiences at your doorstep.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: October 17, 2012 04:49:43 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                      JM from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If you do not want to pay $10 for the ride down hike the BCMC trail down. You get more exercise, you will engage your muscles in a different way and save money at the same time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: October 13, 2012 11:43:47 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Danielle from North Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I hiked the GG just a couple of weeks ago and I thought it was the hardest physcial challenge of my life and yet it was AMAZING. If you are thinking of going please keep in mind who you may go with. I had the best partner. We both made it clear it wasnt a competition we just wanted to get up there at our own speed. 2h42m Was our time. That is much longer than the average time but I tried to enjoy it as much as I could not knowing when I would be able to do it next. Next season I would love to make it up 4 times. $10 is pricey to come down but 10 dollars is nothing compared to the pure joy of my fitness achievment.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: October 12, 2012 10:05:26 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Arun Chand from Surrey writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I went to my first grouse grind on sunday with my son and a friend. It took us 2 hours to complete.I feel really motivated and now I feel I can do anything I want. Someone told me that You cannot do it? Now nobody can tell me that you can not do anything if you put your mind to it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Encourage that anybody can do the grind.
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Take couple bottles of water and good motivator friend.
                                                                                                                                                                                                          All the best .

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: September 26, 2012 11:23:38 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                            elinor and neil allison from aurora on writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                            we completed our first attempt at the Grind in August 2012, luckily the weather was not too hot. we hike Ontario but nothing like this. we are in our early seventies I completed in 80 min, Elinor in 2 hours. water is for sale at the top, it should be free upon completion. three days later we completed the Baden Powell trail from Grouse to Deep Cove in 7 1/2 hours,it was a great experience. we thought we wouldn't be trying the Grind again on our next visit to lovely Vancouver, however as time goes by...you know how it is!

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: September 24, 2012 01:31:08 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Dick from Coquitlam writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks Y Yong. Oddly enough, I've just begun using a stick and it does help with my mobility and I think it also takes some pressure away from the knees. I'll also have to work harder on weight loss and take less stops along the way to improve my times. Today, on the way up, I spoke briefly with a lady who says she's done the Grind over 100 times this season. Now, that's dedication! It's my 14th. When do they usually close the trail?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: September 24, 2012 02:16:23 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yong Y from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Dick, I don't know if this is consider a "cheat" or not, but if you use a walking stick or even two ski poles, you'll be climbing with both arms and legs. I think that'll make your faster.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: September 23, 2012 10:17:01 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Dick from Coquitlam writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  This summer has passed very quickly and much of this is because of my efforts on GG. Tomorrow will be my 13th attempt this season. I'll be 59 and weigh 200 lbs. I've managed to get my time down from 2 30mins to 1 30mins after learning how to breathe more deeply.I could use some tips on how to reduce my time to 1 15. Yes, it's a pain on the way up and I always ask myself why I am doing it. But, I just can't wait to return once I'm done. The people for the most part are friendly and encouraging. I'll be there tomorrow at 4.30.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: September 19, 2012 11:11:52 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tici from VAn writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    There is a water fountain just out side the door, 10 dolars is reasonable considering the costs of the equipment and amount of infrastructure at the top.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Stop winning about the price or hike down the baden powel trail, or go exercise- hike somewhere else

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: September 18, 2012 07:28:55 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Vasyl from Burnaby writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I used to enjoy hiking the Grouse Grind in the past regularly, but had to change my habits as the price for the gondola ride doubled up two years ago! I went yesterday (September 13, 2012) with my co-workers - it was a part of our social event for project completion.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Fortunately it was a gorgeous sunny day that kept us happy and smiling :) But not the Grouse Mountain facilities :(
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You will not find a water fountain on the top anymore!!! A small bottle of water will cost you $2.45.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The toilet paper is the cheapest you can find and does not absorb water very well and you will be asking a paper dispenser for more as it rolls only 3 inches at the time. The chair lift that used to be free is now costs $5! Unfortunately for us hikers everything became business oriented.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The biggest disappointment for all of us was that we were not able to have a meal at any of two restaurants available at the lodge - Altitude Bistro was fully booked for some unknown reasons on Thursday at 3PM! Even it was half empty we were refused entry! And the Observatory would not let us in because of the "dress code".
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Good luck to you Grouse Mountain with your Business attitudes - we will look somewhere else for better value and appreciation!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: September 14, 2012 03:09:18 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Tiffany from Ontario writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Grouse Mountain is a f**king rip off. I would never go back. Those people are a bunch of greedy, money stealing goofs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: September 11, 2012 11:57:25 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          asley from vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          did the grind on the 12th of august it was a hot day completed it in 2 hours 10 min exactly very challeging for my cause i am a big girl but i did it was lot of fun once it was finished but during it i was asking myself y i was punishing myself lol but i am glad i did it very proud of myself :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: August 27, 2012 01:28:32 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Diane from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We did the Grind yesterday and I am so proud of myself and my husband, especially to my 3 boys- 8,6 and 3 yrs old. We all made it for 1.5 hours, not bad at all with the kids. Although, I admit, it was quite a challenge for my 6 and 3 yr old boys. It is a great experience and an awesome work-out. Highlight part of the hike was watching the Bears at the tip of the mountain but not to worry they're kept in a secured area, surrounded with an electric fence. Will definitely do it again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: August 20, 2012 07:04:37 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Vicky E from Chicago writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I did the grind today and despite having read everyone's comments and been warned by friends I still felt pretty confident. I'm a reasonably fit 30 year old woman, who admittedly doesn't do a lot of cardio, but if the average person makes it in 2 hours, how hard can it be? Man alive was I wrong! The lady in the picture on their website is climbing nice neat looking natural steps but such steps are rare and the majority of the pathway involves clambering over rocks with hardly any safe footing. At times I was afraid I'd lose my footing and fall off the mountain entirely. I took frequent breaks and made it in 4 hours 31 minutes.If I were to do it again, I'd wear shoes offering much more protection and take a rucksack filled with water and snacks (no water fountain at the top). The feeling you get (and the view) at the top makes it worthwhile.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: August 17, 2012 10:26:06 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                M from Tsawwassen writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I really enjoy the Grouse Grind and I go as often as I can, even though it takes a while for me to drive there. It's a very nice workout. I find gyms really boring and hard to keep going with nothing to look at, but on the grind you have all these people to urge you on and you can't really bail. I think last year it took me two and a half hours to go up; yesterday I did it in 74 minutes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Even though it gets very crowded, most people are polite and allow people faster than them to pass and are considerate to people slower than them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It's nice if you go fast but keep in mind that the total amount of calories that you burn are independent of your speed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                If you have trouble going up, take your time and relax: you'll get there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: August 16, 2012 12:18:01 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Jennifer from Maple Ridge writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Did the GG on Sat 4th August. It is just that a grind. I did not find it much fun and I was very slow; the whole lower mainland passed me. I did feel a sense of accomplishment though. I doubt I'll ever do it again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Did the BCMC Tuesday 7th August. It is difficult but much easier than the GG. My time wasn't any better though. But there is more to see.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Don't worry about wildlife there are so many people on both trails.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: August 13, 2012 10:22:48 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Angel D from Saskatoon, Sk writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hey everyone,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Just a quick question....I haven't hiked the trail yet and am finding it hard to find family/friends who have already hiked the trail and wanted some general info....
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My husband and I are planning on doing the grouse grind this month and I am wondering if you have to worry about wildlife on the trail such as bears, etc? We have been working out at the gym for 2 hours per day 6 days a week doing cardio and healthy eating, will our cardio withstand this hike? I have read comments of people crying and wanting to die. Also, to keep hydrated how many bottles of water are good to keep in the bag for the trip?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: August 13, 2012 02:22:50 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Dasha from North Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I've done the Grind a lot, but am looking for something that's still steep but a little quieter...and allows me to bring my pups.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Does anyone know if the BCMC allows dogs off leash?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: August 13, 2012 12:25:33 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ed concepcion from Winnetka writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm 61 y/o male,married not a smoker nor a drinker, not a hiker as well but surprisingly made it to the top, after an infinite stops, We did the hike last Aug.4, 2012 with my 55 y/o wife & a very athletic son who made frequent stops as well just to check on us.I'm so proud of myself & thinks that this is one of the best achievements of my life & will never ever forget that very special day. However if I ever go back to Vancouver, I won't try to do it again. Thanks for a memorable experience. Just a comment, will it be better if you install a first aid station in every quarter stops. Thanks again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: August 8, 2012 03:07:16 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Louise W from Cloverdale BC writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Just did the Grouse Grind this morning. Actually did the Grouse Grind after doing a 1hr hike up the BCMC (Baden Powell) trail first, and yes by accident. We had arrived too early for the usually gate entrance so took the other entrance at the end of the fence line in the free parking lot (lot D I think). We had completed about 30min's of this trail when it became clear that we had seen none of the usual GG signs, 1/4 or 1/2 way markers etc. So we made the arduous decision to turn around and come back down, with the intention that we were still going to do the GG. Should have seen the look on people's faces as we passed them going down!! Comments like "you did the whole hike already" etc so we had to be honest and say "no, just a warm up to the Grouse Grind" with a big convincing grin on our faces! All the while thinking the only thing thicker than the tree canopy was my head!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So back to the car, have some more water and off we go! The Grouse Grind trail starting at the gate where it is clearly marked to the left for GG and to the right for BP. Duh!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Did it in 62 minutes which is 7 slower than I had hoped but considering our 1 hr warm up previous to this we had done almost the equivalent of the Grind twice in time length anyway.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Mosquitoes bad at top so get inside and buy your Gondola ticket asap.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Notes to 1st timers: Drink plenty of water before hand and use washrooms before starting out. Taking water is useless as you need your hands for balance and maybe grip. The sloshing water is annoying to listen to and if you're mouth breathing the whole way, which even seasoned Grinders do, you'll choke when you try to take a sip/drink. Have a protein shake beforehand for energy without the full feeling in your belly. Maybe a piece of fruit for natural sugar energy. Lightweight top that breathes and maybe offers support if you're a female and pants/shorts that are lightweight and will allow you to move freely. Take any Advil you need for aches and injuries prior to and after your hike. And bring a change of socks and shoes as your feet will thank you after! Maybe even sandals for after so you can air them out and have some wiggle room.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          After that.... enjoy! It is a challenge both physically and mentally.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: July 26, 2012 10:56:34 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mike Smith from Burnaby writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I did the bcmc trail this time and the trail is much more natural and less stairs than GG. For those not so fit first timers (like me), maybe better off doing the bcmc trail first and then the GG.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            BTW going up GG is like going up a 228 store building (based on floor to height ratio of empire state building).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: July 18, 2012 11:44:40 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Estelle from Coquitlam writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I hiked the Grind today for the first time with my son (17). I am going to be 47 in September so I wanted to give it a go. I did it in 68 minutes and was proud of myself even though I did sound a bit like Darth Vader's mother at times. It is probably the hardest thing that I have ever done. I think that I am going to set a goal for myself to keep doing it until I can get my time down to 60 minutes. I will take the advice of others on this board of not looking up as I did feel overwhelmed at times when I did that. Didn't like the $10.00 cost for the gondola down. A bit steep for the length of the ride! (no Grind pun intended)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: July 13, 2012 01:03:19 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Kamelia from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I finally hiked GG for the 1st time on July 10th...It was challenging for me but I had one goal in mind which was to reach the top no matter what. I did not care about how many people passed by me...I only looked few feets ahead of me as I did not want to feel dizzy....Yes, I reached the top and I am proud of myself, but It is obvious I am not fit as I did the hike in 2h 45mn (Yep!)...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                One disappointing thing was in the top: ALOT of mosquitoes to my surprise..So, I really could not walk in the area as I wanted and really discovered what was on the top...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                There is a restaurant, gift shop and sports shop, etc....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I took the Gondola on the way back ($10)..There was some haze, so the pics did not come as clear as I hoped...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: July 11, 2012 10:43:02 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  JACQ from VANCOUVER writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Our family hiked the Baden Powell/BCMC trail last weekend. Our 3 boys (twin 7yr-olds and 5 1/2 yr old) had a great time. Finished in a bou 2.5 hours. Haven't done the grind in a number of years, still challenging and quite an accomplishment once you've reached the top. Parts of the trail are muddy and rocky, definitely not as well groomed as the main GG. So caution is a must.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: July 8, 2012 01:10:10 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mike Smith from Burnaby, BC writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I did the Grouse Grid with a friend last night and barely survived it. I had done it before back in 2000 or so and I seem to recall it being easier back then with more flat switch backs where as this time it seemed like all stairs. Has it changed since back then or is it just faulty memory?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: July 5, 2012 02:49:26 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lyndon from Richmond BC writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Did the Grouse Grind for the first time ! Love it!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: July 2, 2012 07:34:01 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Dianna Macleod from Aldergrove, bc writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        A virgin no more...I learned a lot for my first climb. I will do better next time...for this time though I was just busy absorbing the sites and sounds of the forest...I am 5 feet 2 inches. I found some or most of the stairs quite challenging. Thank you for placing large boulders next to the steps to make it easier.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        AWSOME, AWSOME. I will do it again...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: June 21, 2012 01:02:19 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Randy from North Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Did the Grind today for the first time despite being well into my third decade living on the North Shore. Enjoyed it tremendously. 1 hr, 22 minutes. Not great but hey, I'm 50+ and I played soccer last night...long gone are the days where back-to-back events were "nothing". HA!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The folks on the trail were great. All were courteous when passing (and there were a LOT of them passing me!) and supportive to anyone struggling...and there were a few of them, but no one crying, like some of the other posts have mentioned.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If you go, watch over your shoulder now and then and step aside for the speed demons - let them challenge their time. Sturdy shoes (cross trainers vs. runners) are a must. As is water! It IS a great workout!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: June 19, 2012 11:00:22 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mitch Ma from Burnaby writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Is the GG really 2.9KMs?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I've done it a couple of times with a Garmin 405 and each time the distance comes out around 2KMs. That's nowhere near 2.9KMs.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I haven't checked BCMC but it must be a couple hundred metres longer.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Can someone explain this to me?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: June 12, 2012 04:15:04 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Dee from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm doing the grind in about 48-52 minutes right now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              - Don't look up or down. In this type of cardio environment to do so can make you very dizzy. Look 3 feet in front of you.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              - Keep moving. Even if you are going turtle slow, don't stop.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              - Keep right. Remember, there are many of us out there constantly trying to defend a best time and if you hog the trail, you slow us down.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              - Eat. You will burn 500-1200 calories doing the grind. I've seen many folk having to stop and send a friend for some sugar. I usually take a granola bar with me just in case.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              - Take an extra layer for when you finish. With the amount of sweat and cooler temperatures at the top, it gets mighty cold.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              - Take water. Drink it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              - The gondola is $10 to come back down. Hiking back down is prohibited, so make sure to bring your cash, credit card and/or debit card.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              - The grind is not supposed to be easy. For anyone. Some do it faster than others, but it hurts everyone. It's a big cardio workout and a great challenge. Power through it. Remind yourself everyone is going through the same thing and that thousands of people finish it every year. Be part of the club.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Good luck.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: June 4, 2012 03:36:01 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Raza from Surrey writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Did the famous Grouse Grind first time on Saturday June 2nd. Before the grind I did some research and read comments and I was mentally prepared for this assault on my body, thinking that I will be able to do it in 90 minutes but I am so glad with my performance , I finished it in 77 minutes which is not bad for the first timer who is not in a very good body shape. How was the experience ? well to be honest it was brutal, as gruesome as heard. But after reaching the top the feeling was great, the sense of accomplishment is worth the pain. It was the greatest physical accomplishment I have done so far. The tips I would share with beginners; take it seriously it is really difficult. Eat lots of carbohydrate the night before and so that you have energy in your body, drink lots of fluid before starting as you will be sweating a lot. Bring a bottle of water/ Gatorade, an energy bar or a banana. Dress properly shorts, t shirt and runner shoes are good. Jeans, high heels or leather shoes, heavy jacket bad idea , if you are carrying a back pack , keep it light or you will regret later (I have seen people crying and cursing). Keep your head down and keep moving , take small steps as much as possible , ignore negative or discouraging comments. Take rest whenever you think you need catch your breath and move don’t let ur body cool down. Enjoy the hike instead of cursing and thinking what you've gotten yourself into. If you dont like hiking then dont try it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I fell in love with the grind its beautiful and the sense of achievement is great, will do few times to improve my time and recommend to everyone. Going next week again :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: June 4, 2012 03:34:33 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caitlin K from Cloverdale writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Did this today and took a whopping 2 hours. It is an extreme work out and it will make you sweat, determine your own self discipline, and possibly even cry (passed a few people crying). There is nothing more satisfying than reaching the top of a mountain you gave your all on!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It got really messy and lots of puddles after the 3/4 mark. Was covered in mud (guess that happens when you're climbing up stairs that come up to your waist!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Take your time and you'll begin to actually enjoy it. Beats a stinky old gym!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: June 3, 2012 06:48:53 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mike from Coquitlam writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Grind is 2 hours of pure hell! No way to sugar coat it! I've completed it twice and cursed every moment of it! LOL! It IS as hard as you've heard,or worse. But when you reach the top, the sense of accomplishment is worth it! More in the category of a workout than a hike. Great training tool though. Hope to tackle it more often and get my time down to a respectable number. I'm a sucker for punishment! LOL!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: June 3, 2012 02:24:35 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ken Quan from Victoria writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Did it yesterday AM (Monday) in a light rain (hardly notice and couldn't tell if it was me sweating or if it was the rain)......plus you're in the forest which kind of shelters you anyways. Biggest knock for me was my glasses fogging up.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      No water on the ground til past the 1/2 way marker.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Some running water on the trails but you could avoid by setting your path properly. Could be slippery if you didn't pay attention.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Had hiker/runners on and socks were dry when I reached the top.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Just got to watch where you tread.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Hope this helps....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: May 29, 2012 09:50:09 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Martin from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's just a little wet on the last 100 meters. I did reach the top with my feet dry in running shoes a couple of days ago, so don't worry about it!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: May 28, 2012 03:51:07 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hiker from vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I know that the GG is open, but is there still snow on the ground? Do we need boots or can we hike with runners at this season? Wet? Slippery?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thank you

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: May 24, 2012 12:46:23 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Stephanie from vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Love the grind. It's a great workout, calorie burner and replacement for the grungy 'ol gym.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's definitely a challenge, but if you stick with it, it gets easier.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: March 1, 2012 04:11:24 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mexico from Yangon writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              the colors are beautiful

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: December 26, 2011 05:05:31 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                cancun mexico from Yangon writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                the colours are amazing

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: November 28, 2011 10:46:54 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Terry Kerr from Richmond, BC writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Newbie-Green-First Timer, to any trail or hill walking; born at night, but not last night! I'm 64 years, with 240 lbs, who accepted an invitation to do the grind - what a trip! Not knowing what to expect, heard it was gruesome etc, it didn't let me down. My head was down so much, I never saw the markers, just kept going, people passing gave encouraging remarks, that was nice. It wasn't very busy, every now and then I would look down at people below and think I'm glad I'm not them, then made the rookie mistake of looking up, only to wish I was where they are!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  After reading this site, reviewing the Grind Facts, elevation, average timing etc. I'm pleased with my first attempt results of 1:30, but now want to better it, if I can?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: October 31, 2011 04:27:13 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Todd from Winnipeg writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wow. Holy Cow. There should be a warning at the beginning - for the beginners that think they're going on a "hike". A hike that you must complete because going down would be too steep for most. Especially somebody out of shape and with bad knees - which describes about half of the people we met who were equally morified when we reached the 1/4 way there sign. AFter the shock wore off we had a meeting about what to do - go down against the stream of people - or continue with manty breaks. 1 hour and 41 minutes later we reached the top. It was probably the greatest physical acomplishment I've done. When I heard the record was 21 minutes I was stunned - at how out of shape we must be. All considered - we will definately tackle this beast whenever we return to Vancouver. But really - put up a sign at the start that accurately describes the length, steepness and overall cardio demand required.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: October 23, 2011 04:34:44 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lisa from Salt Spring Island writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I hiked the Grouse Grind with 3 fitness trainers last weekend... (I am a client & a sucker for punishment) I have been training for months on our own island version of the grind, Mt. Erskine. I was still unprepared for how steep it was!! There is not one level spot to catch your breath. 2 of us did it in 50min. and the other 2 in 57min. Getting to the top is better than money! We hiked the Squamish Chief the next day - a much more enjoyable hike and a different kind of challenge. Loved them both...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: October 22, 2011 03:13:45 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Guest from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        If you do the grind right now, expect a 2-3 hour delay going back down (during peak times) on the gondola due to maintenance. Unfortunately the grind is really slippery right now, so not really good to hike back down. This is until November 4th :P

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: October 16, 2011 04:39:13 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Jarlath Bell from Ballinderry Ireland writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Did the grouse grind on the 19th Sept 2010,had perfect conditions for it but boy was it tough, it took me 45mins. Felt great afterwards, beautiful place, beautiful counntry.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: September 29, 2011 02:20:08 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Michel M. from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Did the climb on Monday Sept 12 with a friend visiting from Denmark. For him it was a piece of cake, he was even whistling and singing all the way up. As for me, I almost thought I would not make it until after the 1/2 point marker where I said to myself that I just need to keep going up at my pace and stop looking up but look down at what you've accomplish so far. And up I went. Took us just under 2 hours (but we stopped often for lenghty photo shoots). As for my friend, I need to thank him to stick with me through the whole climb, cause he definately would have done it in less than an hour. He's 28 and I'm 57, he's going to mountaineering school in Canmore and I've never done any hiking before and just stop smoking 3 months ago ... I think I will try it again :-) I meant try the climb again, have no intention to try smoking again !

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: September 15, 2011 10:33:09 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Jacqueline Quin from Sydney, Australia writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My mate and I did the hike yesterday (9th Sept 2011) and found it challenging as we had just drank ourselves silly the night before. Smelling the booze coming out of our pores was definitely a sign of sobering up.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That half way sign absolutely destroyed us. Watched many people see it and just sit down and have a long needed break. We did it in 1 hour 20 minutes and grabbed a beer after.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              So proud of having done that with a 100% hangover in both of us. Recommending it to all my fellow travellers!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Highly congratulate the old blokes who over took us...machines!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: September 10, 2011 11:40:32 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Kai-Wei Jeng from Richmond writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Did the grind on Aug 26,2011. Took me about 1 hr 43 mins. At times these steps seemed to go on forever. I am glad I grind it out to the end. Took many mini breaks after 1/2 way mark. I was drenched in sweats. After getting to the top, it was a feeling of excitement and accomplishment. Looking to see how my body responds tomorrow. I will try to improve my time on the next visit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: August 27, 2011 02:25:47 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Justin from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I love doing the grouse grind, its a awesome leg workout and great cardio

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: August 24, 2011 02:38:42 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Michelle from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ben: sunscreen isn't required until you reach the top. The whole hike is covered by trees. There are neat free eco tours and a lumberjack and bird shows at the top though which are not covered so for those you'd want some sunscreen or a hat.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: August 10, 2011 11:48:26 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ben from Toronto writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Will do this hike for first time soon. Can anyone advise if sunscreen is required or is it all under shade of tree canopy? Thanks!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: August 9, 2011 10:08:55 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Marlene from Richmond BC writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm so very PROUD of my husband! He just got back from doing the Grouse Grind tonight. Took him 2 hours & 10 min. At the age of near 64 said he wouldn't do it again. But this was an amazing experience for him.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Also very proud of our son... done in
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        45 min. and our 2 grand kids were on top in 1 1/2 hours. Not their first time.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Our admiration goes out to all who take on
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        this challenge... No I won't be doing it
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        in this lifetime.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So very proud of you hon! :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: July 21, 2011 10:42:58 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Rammi from Abbotsford writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Today July 2011 was the first time when I finished the grouse grind.I have tried two times before but could never go past the first quarter.It was intense but I am proud of myself that I finished it.It took me 2 hours and 5 minutes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: July 6, 2011 06:30:53 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Chad from Colorado writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Fun Hike, can't believe the girls that hike that mountain! If I lived up here I'd hike it three times a week just to meet chicks!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: July 6, 2011 05:23:16 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Tobitus from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Used to do this trail all the time. Challenging and fun. It's too expensive now, doubling the price over one year is a bit silly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              They make their money on the tourists already, its a shame they have to stoop to dinging the local grinders who made this so popular in the first place.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: July 6, 2011 10:41:27 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Andree from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                According to this recent post (http://www.vancouvertrails.com/news/2011/06/15/grouse-grind-opens-for-2011/), the Grind is now longer but with less "stairs". I don't know about you but I find that with all the improvements and changes made to the trail in the last couple of years, the level of difficulty has slightly reduced so personal best times might improve for most who do the Grind regularly. Any thoughts?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: July 4, 2011 01:01:58 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Randy Pollard from Surrey writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I did the Grind with a couple of friends on July 1 (Canada Day) along with hundreds of others. At times it looked like an ant hill had been kicked with the amount of people passing by me. Only the 2nd time doing the grind (first time about 15 years ago) and did approx the same time (1hr 47 mins). I would enjoy doing the Grind more often but the $10 ride down is a little pricey.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Any "easier" hikes down from the top??

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: July 2, 2011 12:47:45 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Dawn from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I should add that for those who find it not challenging enough or who simply just want to do more....sometimes after I finish the grind I head straight to goat mountain and when you reach the top you can see an amazing view of the Vancouver and beyond! It's about an 8 km hike. There are some short steep terrain. To get there go past the bear habitat and toward your left you will see a logging road. Run or walk for about 5-10 minutes and you will see the trail head. There are other shorter trails to do. Keep an eye out for bears. I would say it's a must to do after the grouse grind if your one of those people who can complete the grind under an hour :) or just take a break after the grind and then try goat mountain but that means you should start your day early!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: June 7, 2011 03:38:43 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Dawn from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      For dedicated grouse grinders who purchase passes every year the wait for the snow to clear is tiresome! But we have to follow mother natures rules however, last season wasn't so great with all the construction happening and the tapering trailway near the end didn't help either. In addition, I paid for the increase in the gondola pass thinking I would be doing the grind in spring and now it's going to expire. I'm upset that I haven't gotten my fare usage of the pass. I hope Grouse would allow an extension on the pass considering the late season, last years construction problems/set-backs and the increase in pass price with minimal use..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: June 7, 2011 03:25:31 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Mike from Burnaby writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I read that Grouse Mountain is going to be open for skiing well into June. It's going to be awhile before the Grind opens.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: May 16, 2011 06:56:39 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Jo from Surrey writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          My boyfriend and I did this last year every weekend for almost 2 months. I love the challange and it feels incredible when you reach the top. The downside of this trail is that it can get very busy. The best times to go would be during the week early morning, it's not as busy in the evening but the mosquitos will eat you alive.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Another favorite thing about this hike is that you can take the gondola ride on the way down which will save your knees and legs from going down the hike. I would recommend this hike to anyone that loves a challenge and a great workout!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: April 30, 2011 03:04:11 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            JC from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The Grouse Grind is really meant for those who want a challenging outdoor cardio workout. I wouldn't call it a "hike", "Nature's stairmaster" is a more apt term for it. The trail also gets very crowded on nice weekend days. Tourists and athletes alike will flock to the Grind, and as you can imagine, the conflicting paces of the two types of visitors can lead to frustration on both sides. If you show up at the Grind on a Saturday morning, patience and a good-humored attitude will go a long way toward making your own trek more pleasant, as well as others'.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Sandi Rutz from Edmonton, that racist comment really wasn't necessary.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: March 27, 2011 09:31:51 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              J.M. from Seattle writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I've completed the Grouse Grind a number of times.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This trail is somewhat challenging. I've completed it twice in one afternoon, but in certain places, I wish it were more difficult/challenging.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Honestly, it's too easy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Also, there are too many slowpokes on the path. I think that up until noon the trail should be reserved for people who can complete the hike in under 50 minutes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's all I have.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: March 21, 2011 12:31:36 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Jessica from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think the Grind is awesome but $10.00 for a 5 minute ride down the mountain????

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                What a blatant rip off...this city is SO ridiculous. They'll get it from you one way or another.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: January 3, 2011 02:13:30 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Brenda Houde from Oakville.Ontario writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I attempted The Grind on Aug 28/10 and completed only 1/4 of the climb and had to give up and turn around...I was very upset with myself because I knew I could do this....so on Aug 30/10 I tried agin and completed the climb in 1hr 45mins....I am so proud of myself...I told my best fried that I was going to climb The Grind and she laughted at me...that was not nice!!!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: November 17, 2010 06:49:48 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ed Bourgaize from Calgary writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    As others have commented, the grind is steep, ugly, enrelenting and uninspiring scenery populated by way too many pushy people. I LOVE IT. I try to do it every time I'm in Vancouver. If you want a pleasant walk in the woods to commune with nature, or you're scared of a little hard effort, go somewhere else (as I also do), but if you want a 900 meter high stairmaster with fresh air and a real sense of accomplishment, the GRIND is the only game in town.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: November 3, 2010 03:59:21 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Willi Baumann from Germany writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My wife and I hiked up the Grind this weekend and we were absolutely shocked about the aggressiveness of lots of "grinders". Shoving yourself in front of people who in front of you is definitely not the way to go! A woman overtaking me in a very steep and narrow part didn't watch where she was placing her hiking pole, ramming the tip into my foot.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Then others breathing in your neck trying to pass- guess not thinking about the consequences if the person in front of them slips and falls backwards???

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I guess most people don't know how to behave in alpine terrain....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: October 5, 2010 08:12:41 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Tierney Diggens from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I am so proud of my hubby who does the grind weekly, rain or shine. He is so proud of his time of just over an hour...he is 64 and paces himself sensibly and is not out to impress anyone but himself (and perhaps me...LOL!) Will I ever join him? Not likely but I will always appreciate his efforts and the beautiful smile upon his face every time he returns!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: September 26, 2010 04:48:05 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Leo Levasseur from Burnaby writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyone know where I can get an online map of the BCMC trail?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: September 22, 2010 09:09:41 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            RPB from Armstrong writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The Grouse Grind should not be called a hike. It's only good for people wanting a severe cardio workout as the stairs are too high (stairs are not helpful on hiking trails in the first place on most trails) and you're so busy puffing that you don't get to enjoy the scenery much at all. If you want a pleasant jaunt this trail just isn't for you. I personally hated it. The only reward is the cheaper gondola ride down from the top. Take the new BCMC trail if you actually want to enjoy yourself on the way up to the top of Grouse - it's longer but nowhere near as evil! I've also heard the Chief is superior as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: August 22, 2010 06:41:47 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Robert Medsger from Walnut Creek, CA writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I did the Grind last week with a bunch of runners, and we raced to the top. It was one of the hardest things I've done. If it's too easy, go faster. It can be one hell of a workout.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The crowds did get a little annoying. It's very hard to pass people at certain sections.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Overall great hike. 41 minutes to the top.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: August 19, 2010 09:10:52 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Jen from Surrey writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I agree with hobby hiker - the Chief is waaaaaaaaaaay better! It's actually a hike, not a nature walk like the Grind.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I finally did the GG for the first time after years of cajoling. I'm never doing it again. If I'm gonna drive an hour to the North Shore, I wanna do a real hike - not stare at somebody's sweaty butt for an hour!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: August 14, 2010 04:49:15 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bill Tyler from Soda Springs, Idaho writes:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The hike is as hard as you want it to be. If you think it is too easy you didn't push yourself to make it difficult. Try it again and see if you can beat your initial time by about 10 minutes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I do, however, agree that it can be crowded.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: August 9, 2010 09:17:30 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    hobby hiker from Naramata writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This hike is so overrated! It's not warranting of a "difficult" rating at all in my opinion, not in comparison to the difficulty of much longer, more technical hikes like the Chief and Lynn Peak and the Lions. It's overrated, overused and a 10 dollar gondola ride down? I'll not be trekking this trail again anytime soon. Too busy, too boring, too expensive. I should have gone to yoga class instead.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: August 1, 2010 12:18:24 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sha from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Today is Friday but there were still many hikers on Grouse Grind. I tried the new BCMC trail with my daughter and we loved it! BCMC trail is a little longer than Grouse Grind, but much less crowded. Highly recommend this trail as an alternative to Grouse Grind!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: July 30, 2010 05:38:14 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sha from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have been hiking G.G. with my kids for a couple of years. First time we hiked it when my son was 5 years old. It took about 90 minutes with a few breaks at each of the Quarter mark, now we could manage going up to the top without break in about 52 minutes. It seems the trail is gaining its popularity every year. We hiked it last weekend - it's too crowded. There may be less hikers in the weekdays? I plan to hike Goat Mountain tomorrow, but will take BCMC trail instead of G.G. to get up to Grouse Mountain.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: July 29, 2010 10:02:55 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Jolene from Burnaby writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I went on the grouse grind in June. I'm not a hiker and I thought I was going to die. Once you did it you feel so healthy and proud of yourself for doing it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: July 28, 2010 05:14:18 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            phl Jerome from Shreveport, la writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My wife completed this trail. I'm so proud of her! Way to work babes muah love ya

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: July 25, 2010 08:33:42 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Richard Szabo from Penticton BC writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I've heard of the Grouse Grind for years but never had the chance to venture up it until last week. I sure wish I found this sooner!! I loved the climb as I like chalenging myself. I made it from the bottom tag marker to the top marker in 46:09. I now have a goal for the next time to do it in under 45 min. I just wish the start of the downhill trail was better marked as I ended up running down the main logging road and ended up in Lynn Valley! A fair distance away from where I started!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: July 24, 2010 09:58:41 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Harjot Kataria from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The bcmc trail which runs alongside the Grouse Grind is a nice alternative for those looking for a change. It's not quite as steep but is a little longer and a LOT quieter. Well marked once you're on the trail.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The starting point is at the same junction where the Baden Powell Trail splits from the Grouse Grind (three trails meet at this point, the middle one is the bcmc)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: July 10, 2010 10:30:54 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  TODD from St Albert, AB writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I did the grind this week for only the second time. This is truly one of the best hikes in Canada you can do, and the feeling of accomplishment as you look down at Stanley Park from the top is worth the trip. The first time it took me an hour and twenty minutes, but this time I managed to eek out a 1:07 but have to say it took a lot of work, and the thighs were burning hard by the 3 quarter mark. For those looking for a scenic walk in the bushes, this is not a trip you should try. All that is to be seen from most of the path is trees, rock, and steps...and more steps. There is a decent view of a waterfall about half way up, but there really isnt a place to stop and picnic, and you likely wouldnt make it up to the spot with a pack full of cheese doodles and soda.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: May 12, 2010 07:42:05 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Al Mishima from Honolulu, HI writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Best hike I've ever experienced. This is far superior and more challenging than the hike tourist take in Hawaii, the Diamond Head Lookout.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've hiked this twice and will attempt to do so every year when visiting Vancouver, BC.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: May 6, 2010 11:17:51 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Charlotte from Houston writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      After first reading about the Grind I knew I would have to do this before I left Vancouver. I picked the Thanksgiving weekend so I would have extra time to recover...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Having only four hours of sleep (couldn't sleep) the night before the climb I was very nervous especially after reading at 2 a.m. that it was over 2,000 "steps" which is really a nice name for boulders, rocks, branches, etc. My mind was playing tricks on me so it convinced me I should have my travel insurance card and emergency contacts with me in case I had a coronary. My friend and trainer who went with me was so great and told me I didn't need that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      But, wow that climb was just as the name implies...grinding, climbing, grunting, panting, measured breaths....moments of asking yourself "why are you doing this to your knees...."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      However, when it was all over I was so happy, yet stunned that I actually did it. The views are beautiful and yes you definitely need a change of clothes. It was October 10 and my head was soaking wet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Tips that my trainer told me which turned out to be good ones: When stopping don't look up because you will be daunted by what is ahead. Look down and see what you've just accomplished. It is almost better to keep one's head down and take it one step at a time and concentrate just on that moment, that boulder. Be positive. YOu will be passed by people who think it is no big deal but remember it is a big deal especially for Grind Virgins.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Be happy and be proud of yourself.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: October 12, 2009 09:05:14 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Antonio from Burnaby writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I would like to say, this Grouse Grind is the ultimate challenge of testing yourself , so called the "the agony of defeat" At first of knowledge of its existence , scare the hell out of me of staring at this mountain, and even completing it,never alone attempting it for the challenge of endurance of mankind and personal quest.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have done this mountain now 7 times this year and it calls me to the challenge every time . I have improved my time since beginning of 2hrs and a half, down to recent 1hr and 10 minutes, what a challenge. To me that is great for the body and mind and soul.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Now I am going to make it lower than that last time ,1hour or lower next time out this week, I must! I must! Italian Stallion, Rocky.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: October 5, 2009 08:03:04 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          richard william from london,on writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          what's with the grind? straight up a mountain for 2 hours..is it the air that makes vancouverities do such nonsense.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted: September 17, 2009 10:21:07 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Rob from Baltimore, MD writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Did the grind for the first time today! It was awesome. My time was 1 hr 36 minutes. I am VERY glad that I chose to wear hiking boots over tennis shoes. The terrain is pretty rough. Lots of rocks and tree roots. Having the ankle support was good as was the harder soles.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'll definitely be back!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted: August 31, 2009 10:50:37 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ellen Z from Portland, OR writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My friend and I hiked the Grind last Friday. It was a pretty killer hike for me since I have a bad knee and asthma, but it was worth it. I recommend this hike for anyone who wants to challenge themselves both physically and mentally. Bring 2 bottles of water and a dry shirt for the top. Please be kind to slower hikers (like me) and give some warning if you're going to pass on the left side of the trail - it's very narrow in some places and it's easy to lose your footing with tired legs. The view at the top is awesome but the beer is expensive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted: August 30, 2009 11:15:53 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Herve from Nottingham, UK writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I did the grind this saturday. I didn't know what to expect and was equipped to continue further (backpack, change of clothes, waterproofs, food and drink), but I managed 49 min., taking it easy at the beginning to pace myself and navigate the traffic but walking briskly for the last part where I could. I really enjoyed this; the view, for sure, but mainly the effort if I am honest (the fog made the view a bit limited sadly, although there were quite a few hikers going up, some hitting their limits and also poorly equipped). I paused at the cafe on top and pushed on to Grouse, Dam and Little Goat before turning back as with running gear only, a small backpack and a limited map I felt it was safer to do so. I must come back to push all the way to Crown; and to improve my time up the grind. This is a a lovely place and I can only imagine how beautiful the views must be.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                P.S. A useful tip for all is to take a spare shirt to change after the grind. I was equipped and changed into a Helly Hansen to push on as it was getting cool with the fog. Even in summer this may be advisable.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted: August 17, 2009 11:01:08 AM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  RM from Calgary, AB writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  My first time to do the Grouse Grind this past weekend without doing my Google homework. I only came upon this website today. But I've done a few hikes before and so I came to the Grind with expectations.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Shocked to see that it was more vertical and the trails do not zig-zag longer. I think they should add to Gate notice that the Trail is rated "Difficult" along with the Distance/Elevation Gain so newbie hikers like me get that info from the base. Without info, I was not surprised to see a toddler or even month-old newborn being carried up the "Difficult" trail.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Also a warning to those new to the Grind that loose stones can come down right at you if you happen to do a rest stop almost directly above other stops.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I was hit by one of those stones on my foot saved by my runners but one could have easily hit me on the head.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted: July 27, 2009 07:46:47 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Jeffrey Ai from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've hiked this trail for 4 times. The good thing of this trail is :
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    * Lots of attractions on the top(bears, lumberjack show, bird-of-prey show, theatre, hang gliding, and free cable car for skiers in winter)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    * No need to go downhill because you could spend 5$ to take cable car

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The bad thing of this trail is nothing spectacular to see on the trail itself. It's just climbing and climbing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted: June 1, 2009 07:47:59 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Elvia Russell from Surrey writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Every summer, as soon as Grouse opens, I love to go and hike it at least once a week. It's a fantastic workout. I burn more calories hiking Grouse than I do on any other type of exercise. Even being on the treadmill for 45 minutes doesn't do what Grouse does for me.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The scenery of course is absolutely beautiful. It's SO WORTH IT. Can not wait till it opens.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted: May 4, 2009 01:40:09 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Jason Tan from North Vancouver writes:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        My friend and I heard the Grouse Grind opened last week, so we hiked it this morning. The trail is completely clear of snow but there are some muddy sections near the top.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I found out today that if you have a season's pass to ride the gondola back down, you can drop off a bag and they'll take it to the top for you. This is great because we don't have to pack a change of clothes with us, we can drop them at the bottom and they'll be waiting for us when we finish the Grind.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted: June 17, 2008 05:18:13 PM PST

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Have you hiked Grouse Grind? Share your experience with us:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Name: *
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hometown: *
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Email Address: *
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Your email address will NOT be displayed on the site.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Rating: *
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Comment: *

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Share up to 3 photos from your hiking experience:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Photos must be smaller than 12MB and must not be of an offensive nature more contain illegal acts. We reserve the right to remove photos or comments we deem unacceptable in our sole discretion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Upload Photo:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Upload Photo:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Upload Photo:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Comments that gratuitously attack or demean individuals or organizations are not acceptable. We reserve the right to remove comments or any other content we deem unacceptable in our sole discretion, including removing user names and profile pictures. For our full website terms and conditions including our legal guidelines for user postings and comments on www.vancouvertrails.com, please see our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.