3.67 out of 5 - 36 reviews

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Nicole from West Vancouver writes:

Good workout completed the trail in 49 mins. Please if you bring your dog READ THE SIGNAGE!!!! DOGS ARE ONLY ALOWED ON LEASH!!! This is not the first time I have encountered rude people with dogs running uncontrolled off leash- one ran right in to me and if I didn't have proper footing would have totally knocked me over down causing me to fall into a gully! If your going to bring your dogs keep them controlled and on leash - have some respect for your fellow hikers!

    Posted: September 24, 2017 03:33:01 PM PST

    Esther from Langley writes:

    Took this trail to come down after doing the Grind to go up. We asked Grouse Mountain staff about the trail, they told us it was poorly marked, which wasn't at all true (maybe they were trying to get us to pay for the gondola?) Some sections are quite steep and because it's not as well engineered as the Grind, you have to pay close attention to where you put your feet. I did it in runners but would recommend boots or trail shoes. If you don't want to pay for the gondola, or simply want to extend your hiking time at Grouse, recommend the BCMC!

      Posted: September 17, 2017 03:50:49 PM PST

      Tiago from Norh Vancouver writes:

      I love this trail... less man built stairs than the Grind and lots of nature...

        Posted: September 14, 2017 09:44:52 AM PST

        crossover from Vancouver, BC writes:

        Great alternative to the Grind...way less people and the trail is more rugged (feels more like hiking than just climbing stairs). The trail felt a bit more leveled out after marker #80. I carried a heavier backpack than most people because I want to use this opportunity to gauge my hike to the Garibaldi Lake. It took me just over two hrs to finish. Great workout!

          Posted: August 7, 2017 12:58:53 PM PST

          Xiaoyu from Richmond writes:

          Great hike with lots of switchbacks and some difficult sections but nothing overwhelming. Quietness on the trail a great respite from the sometimes very raucous Grouse Grind.

          Did the return trip down - poles really helped.

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            Posted: July 13, 2017 12:13:39 PM PST

            Kris from West Vancouver writes:

            The bcmc begins step. Gained 896m in elevation over 2.3k around 500m the switchbacks start which made the trail seem less steep. This trail is very rugged with lots of large rocks and roots - recommend sturdy footwear. Definitely do NOT recommend to anyone looking for peaceful hike it was so busy it seemed like cattle hiking up. At one point there was a couple with a large dog off leash coming down the trail. The dog was way infront and left totally uncontrolled, it ran right up to me, jumped and almost knocked me over at a very steep section with a direct dropff! The rude couple did not even apologize. Awsome views once you reach the cut. Grouse mountain was packed and I found the employees of grouse mountain to be extremely unhelpful and rude. The BCMC is a good workout and not a bad trail, if it was less busy. Note there is no water fountain or refil station at the beginning of the mountain or at the top! Bottled water is available but was sold out!

              Posted: July 5, 2017 08:45:54 PM PST

              Jen Gee from Vancouver writes:

              New signage made the trail easy to follow - up, up, up the mountain! Trail is in fairly good shape with minor erosion and some scrambling in spots. Still a busier route than most Vancouver trails but no where near the gong show of the Grouse Grind. It's a great cardiovascular work out with a beautiful view (& maybe a local brew) to reward yourself with. As others have recommended, we left our dog at home.

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                Posted: July 3, 2017 08:06:00 PM PST

                Lucas from Vancouver writes:

                While the trail is dog friendly, please note: NO DOGS ARE ALLOWED THE GROUSE MOUNTAIN SKYRIDE.

                  Posted: July 1, 2017 06:34:44 PM PST

                  Alice from Vancouver writes:

                  Suggestion: Best not to indicate that this hike is dog friendly unless it also clearly explains that if you bring your dog you will need to do the return trip down the trail (it's not a one way hike) since dogs are not permitted on the gondola. It could be a problem if people aren't aware it this. Thanks

                    Posted: May 13, 2017 02:49:51 PM PST

                    Alice from Vancouver writes:

                    Suggestion: Best not to indicate that this hike is dog friendly unless it also clearly explains that if you bring your dog you will need to do the return trip down the trail (it's not a one way hike) since dogs are not permitted on the gondola. It could be a problem if people aren't aware it this. Thanks

                      Posted: May 8, 2017 11:24:39 PM PST

                      Robert from Tsawwassen writes:

                      I've been doing this trail for more than 15 years but have been away for the past three or more because life. We were really surprised to see how bad the trail has gotten. Massive erosion and root exposure, and in several places rebar originally meant to hold steps in place now protrudes dangerously like a spike waiting to get someone unlucky enough to fall on it. It needs maintenance badly, especially now that a lot of the people who used to run back down the Grind are now taking the BCMC down because they aren't allowed to do so the Grind.

                        Posted: November 13, 2016 06:18:18 PM PST

                        Grace from Vancouver writes:

                        This trail went terribly. At the first intersection, we went followed a sign which pointed to the 'parking lot' but it got us lost. We were following these orange tags on the trees, but it actually turned out that they were probably old trail signs that were not in use anymore. Thankfully, there were a few guys behind us that also followed that same sign, so we weren't alone in case anything happened. So, we were off the beaten path for the first part of the trail, and it was really dangerous, because it consisted of just a really steep hill in which we ended up scrambling down on more hands and feet for many parts. Fortunately, after a while we spotted a few hikers (on the actual trail) and merged up with them. For the rest of the way, it went pretty good, a substantially less number of hikers compared to the grind.

                          Posted: September 1, 2016 04:00:44 PM PST

                          Joan from Sydney, Australia writes:

                          I climbed up the Grouse Grind and for some added variety, went down the hill via the BCMC track. It was way less polluted with people and voices than the Grind as expected and after seeing the hordes of people at the top of the resort area, it was almost a haven being able to walk in a meditative state uninterrupted by other people's chatter and heavy breathing. Recommended as a good, short but sporty walk to get the blood pumping. Even better, it is easily accessible by public transport.

                            Posted: July 31, 2016 03:22:47 AM PST

                            L&L from Vancouver writes:

                            Why anybody would do the actual Grind over the BCMC is beyond me. Grind is overcrowded, you have someone's butt in your face the whole time and it's overly groomed (in the sense that it is all built in steps). The BCMC does have some steps, but the overall trail is much more rough, natural and technically challenging. It is what I call a hike, not a staircase filled with tourists, many of whom really don't know what they are getting themselves into. BCMC offers some tough sections and you have to keep aware of the roots and rocks underfoot. I do it with my border collie, and thus we must hike back down as well since dogs are not permitted on the gondola. Hiking down is more technically challenging than the ascent as there are so many opportunities to trip and fall. However, this is what I enjoy about hiking. Going up, takes about 1.5 hours at a casual pace but you can really get your blood pumping simply by going faster, another aspect I enjoy about this sparsely travelled route. It is well marked, easy to follow and offers a good workout without the hordes who are tackling the Grind just to the west. Highly recommend for anyone who truly enjoys hiking in relative solitude, with a challenge for the legs and lungs. My dog, who is very fit, is knackered after the BCMC. If you have out of town guests who have heard they "must do The Grind" do them a favour and take them up BCMC.

                              Posted: July 18, 2016 11:27:08 PM PST

                              Tami-Lynn Matheson from North Vancouver writes:

                              Did this trail a few days ago and would recommend it for those who enjoy a rougher more natural hike than the Grouse Grind. There are way less built in stairs due to less trail destruction you excessive foot traffic . This is a little longer and as difficult as the Grind without the tourists in flip flops . The biting flies at the top were no funcertain but they kept us moving:) Be safe , have a great workout and keep your eyes on the little orange trail markers .

                                Posted: July 18, 2016 09:25:45 AM PST

                                Richard Nicolas from Vancouver writes:

                                Did this hike with my friend after we hiked up the Grouse grind and after failed attempting Crown mountain (due to snow). Before going down the trail, there will be a sign saying "Downhill Travel not advisable due to very steep terrain and poorly marked trails. Those choosing to travel down this trail do so at their own risk". However, for people that do go up the grind and have went downhill hiking several times, this trail is no problem at all. Took us about 50 minutes just to get down the trail but it sure was worth it! You save yourself $10 and can have a nice big dinner for a reward instead of a gondola ride!!!

                                  Posted: June 26, 2016 09:59:16 PM PST

                                  Dave from Langley writes:

                                  To hike down the BCMC (if you go up the Grind), turn right (East) after the big slab of rock at the top of the Grind but before the chalet. Stay on the path/road for a couple of minutes and look for the BCMC trail sign to the right. For the first part going down you follow pipes. Look for the orange trail markers. It took me an hour to go down. Time will vary of course. Well worth it for the quad workout. This is not for beginners. Watch for roots, rocks, and uneven parts. Plus it is steep in places. Any rain makes it slippery. Route finding going down is relatively easy. More difficult if you hike up the BCMC. No real problem though. Look for the path, and also look for the orange markers.

                                    Posted: May 2, 2016 10:34:51 AM PST

                                    John from Burnaby writes:

                                    Little on the muddy side immediately following/during rain, but basically clear now. Last of the packed snow is rapidly clearing and my last trip up was in regular shoes. Trail's in pretty good shape.

                                      Posted: April 18, 2016 11:10:21 AM PST

                                      Carlie from Vancouver writes:

                                      Did this hike yesterday and the conditions were clear all the way up until you get to the "plateau" of the hike at the top (last 10 mins or so). The trail becomes a little creek by the pipes which turns into a bit of snow and ends with quite a bit of snow. I'd recommend wearing hiking boots or at least waterproof shoes and be prepared to step/fall in deep snow!

                                        Posted: April 9, 2016 02:00:48 PM PST

                                        Susan from North Vancouver writes:

                                        Thinking of doing the BCMC hike this Sunday - any comments on its condition?

                                          Posted: April 6, 2016 02:30:24 PM PST

                                          Chris from Surrey writes:

                                          Hello everyone. I have a few questions about the BCMC tail in the winter.

                                          I read somewhere there is another start to the trail for when the gate is closed that is located just east. Can anyone confirm this?

                                          Is it frowned upon hiking the BCMC trail in winter time?

                                          what are the (best) hiking options going back down?

                                          There is very limited information i could find when it comes to winter hiking this trail, so I would very much appreciate any input. thanks!

                                            Posted: January 24, 2016 02:50:04 PM PST

                                            Peter from New Westminster writes:

                                            this is my weekly trail, I go from early in the season to end of season. I am up there every Monday or Tuesday.
                                            I like that it is not so groomed as the Grind, I am not a big fan of what it has become so I was told about the BCMC 2 years ago and have been enjoying it ever since.

                                              Posted: October 21, 2015 08:54:00 AM PST

                                              Kaylea from vancouver writes:

                                              It usually takes me 1 hour to complete the Grind, this took me 3 hours, and I found it way more difficult than the grind.I followed the orange markers to the best of my ability, there were times where I could see no visible trail and no trail markers.

                                              It was a lovely, less crowded hike. The top was extremely steep. where the trail splits at the base to the BCMC trail there's a white marker stating that it is a 25 minute hike up. If your a regular human that is just not happening. Approximately 1.5-2 hours from that point.

                                                Posted: September 27, 2015 09:57:35 AM PST

                                                Elizabeth from BELLINGHAM writes:

                                                can anyone please clarify if one needs a day pass to park for the Grouse Grind.

                                                Alternatively does anyone have any comments about taking the bus from Lonsdale Quay regarding quality of experience, timing, and logistics as compared to driving and parking at the trial head.

                                                many thanks!!

                                                  Posted: September 9, 2015 09:20:57 AM PST

                                                  Gini K from North Haven, CT writes:

                                                  I am amazed that the estimated hiking time is 1.5 hours. Yes, the trail is only 3km (1.8 miles to visitros from the US). The formula for estimating hiking time in the White Mountains guide published by the Appalachian Mountain Club calls for 2 miles per hour for distance PLUS a half hour for every thousand feet of elevation gain. Using that formula, which has served me well hiking in New Hampshire, the estimated time for hiking would be 3.22 hrs. So don't feel bad if you can't make it in 1.5 hours.

                                                  On the whole, this is a very good trail. However, some of the upper portions are very eroded. There are lots of exposed roots, which call for careful foot placement. Route finding (no pun intended) can be complicated by a significant number of blow downs.

                                                    Posted: August 9, 2015 09:36:24 AM PST

                                                    Brande from Delta writes:

                                                    BCMC is my new go-to trail.

                                                    The workout is fantastic - it is up, and up, and up .. and up.

                                                    It is not at all crowded but yet enough people that as a solo female hiker I do not feel isolated on the trail.

                                                    The root and rocks give you lots of options for where you want to put your feet (unlike the Grind where the wooden steps dictate how you hike).

                                                    I honestly dont think I will ever do the Grind again now that I have discovered the wonderful BCMC.

                                                    A note to newbies.. when you get hear the top, around marker 133 I think, there is a small pink sign on a tree giving you options or right or left. Go left if you want the Gondola.

                                                      Posted: August 4, 2015 11:54:40 AM PST

                                                      Nikki from Halifax writes:

                                                      First time hiking the BCMC - Trail is in good shape and not too crowded for a Sunday afternoon.

                                                        Posted: June 21, 2015 02:20:56 PM PST

                                                        Ross from Northshore writes:

                                                        Just done our first family hike up BCMC. Definitely far less crowded than the Grind, so much more enjoyable if you are with a 6 year old who needs regular breaks. Trail is in great condition with only a bit of mud from c marker 140 onwards. Bonus was no queue for the ride down - was expecting a longer wait on Mothers Day.

                                                          Posted: May 10, 2015 04:05:49 PM PST

                                                          Barbara from Surrey writes:

                                                          It did a lot of raining today. Will the trail be too muddy to hike it tomorrow?

                                                            Posted: September 19, 2014 06:21:35 PM PST

                                                            Larson from Surrey writes:

                                                            Considering that the grind has become a monotonous stair climb cluttered with tourists, I enjoyed my first hike up the BCMC a lot.

                                                            BCMC's drawbacks (compared to the Grind) make it unsuitable for tourists and novices:
                                                            - less well-marked; easier to go wrong way
                                                            - inconsistent footing and pace (no steps)
                                                            - more muddy and slippery
                                                            - fewer hikers to help you with logistical or medical problems

                                                              Posted: July 28, 2014 04:29:12 PM PST

                                                              Susan from Vancouver writes:

                                                              Caution: Only partially dog friendly. The info summary states that the trail is dog friendly. The trail can take dogs, but dogs are NOT allowed on the Grouse Mountain resort property. Dogs will NOT be allowed on the gondola. The owners have animals up there and do not want any chance that they will be harassed. I suspect that they have other reasons. When I was considering purchasing a year pass, I was told I would not be allowed to bring my 4.5 pound Chihuaha on the gondola even if she was enclosed in a dog bag. So, if you bring your dog, be prepared to walk back down.

                                                              Miss bringing my dog, but do enjoy this trail.

                                                                Posted: July 19, 2014 11:45:20 AM PST

                                                                Helena from North Vancouver writes:

                                                                Just did it today,great hike with 4 boys (ages 6, 9, 9, 12)(teacher strike day!) It was great...not too hard for the kids, none complained - and not too busy. It took us about 1 hr 40mins, older boys were probably up in 1hr 25mins..... I let them go ahead as they have been before. The red BCMC markers are a great distraction - eg. we will stop at marker #50 for a snack etc. I prefer to do grind when not busy and without the kids, so this is a great alternative.

                                                                  Posted: June 11, 2014 02:49:51 PM PST

                                                                  Kirsten from Vancouver writes:

                                                                  Just a head's up -- there is a large white sign on the Baden Powell trail that identifies the BCMC Trail at the split. Once you're on the trail, the markers are red squares with some orange ones. The red squares are clearly marked with "BCMC" on them.

                                                                  I went up with my partner today -- no more snow and a light crowd of people (~25 people) on the trail with us. It was definitely squishy at the top with today's rain and the snow melt. We'll be back out now that we know what we are looking for. :)

                                                                    Posted: May 25, 2014 04:09:33 PM PST

                                                                    Scott Neufeld from Vancouver writes:

                                                                    Just as a follow up to my own post we hiked BCMC this afternoon/evening, left bottom at 6:40ish and had no problems. Nice hike, very similar to the grind. Little bit of snow/ice on the very top, flat section of the trail. The grind is still technically closed so to access the trailhead, just use one of the "around the fence" entrances. Oh and the gravel parking lot is now pay parking as well (as of this afternoon...they just installed the meters). $4 for the day, $2 for 3 hours

                                                                      Posted: May 16, 2014 11:33:54 PM PST

                                                                      Scott Neufeld from Vancouver writes:

                                                                      Planning to go up the BCMC this afternoon (aiming for start 6:15pm...). Anyone been up recently and can give a heads up on conditions/whether 6:15 is too late to start?


                                                                        Posted: May 16, 2014 10:39:12 AM PST

                                                                        Penny from Vancouver writes:

                                                                        The majority of the BCMC Trail is equally as challenging as the Grind. It does level out a bit around the final fifth giving you a chance to catch your breath. The steps are less uniform than the Grind so there is more scrambling over roots and rocks. It's really important to watch for the orange markers, as there aren't as many people to follow and there are multiple switchbacks. Took me one hour 40 at a relatively slow pace.

                                                                          Posted: August 17, 2013 12:46:39 PM PST

                                                                          Szarky from Vancouver writes:

                                                                          Really liked this trail. Got a bit bored of The Grind so we thought we'd try this one out. Accidentally got onto the Baden Powell Trail in the beginning but quickly realized we had made the mistake and tracked back to get going the right way.

                                                                          Not as hard as The Grind but if you're looking for a good workout it can be had on the BCMC, just go faster! I really enjoyed the fact that this wasn't busy at all when we went a few weeks ago. The Grind always has so many people on it even when we've gone at odd times like a Friday night as the gate was being closed. Like how the trail also felt less man made than The Grind, just felt like a more natural hike. Definitely will do this one again.

                                                                            Posted: July 1, 2013 10:29:17 AM PST

                                                                            Angela from Surrey writes:

                                                                            Hiked this a couple weeks ago and it's a bit sloshy at the top. But my hiking shoes didn't get soaked or anything. Just stepped carefully. Definitely not as hard as The Grouse Grind (did that last week and was only my 3rd time doing it in the past few years - whew! BCMC more 'fun' to do if you're not looking to work really hard lol).

                                                                              Posted: June 26, 2013 04:15:27 PM PST

                                                                              RC from Richmond writes:

                                                                              I went up yesterday, after a heavy rainfall the previous night. The upper half of the trail was basically a stream and there's still a fair amount of snow at the top once the trail levels off. Make sure your hiking boots are waterproof.

                                                                                Posted: May 24, 2013 03:09:31 PM PST

                                                                                Chris from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                Went up on the 20th. A little muddy in a few sections near the top but good in general. Some snow at the very top. Plan to head up again today.

                                                                                  Posted: May 24, 2013 09:49:22 AM PST

                                                                                  Jane from London writes:

                                                                                  Planning to hike the BCMC this weekend (May 25-26), anyone gone up recently? How did you find it? Thanks!

                                                                                    Posted: May 23, 2013 07:34:26 PM PST

                                                                                    Frederik from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                    Hi, I was planning on hiking the bcmc trail this weekend - has anyone hiked it recently and knows if solid boots suffice or if one should have crampons or snowshoes.


                                                                                      Posted: February 14, 2013 02:32:30 PM PST

                                                                                      David from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                      My partner and I did this yesterday (18 November) and it was simple enough. The snow started just as the trail begins to level out as you approach the top (approx. 1000m). The steeper sections were still clear and traction was good. That will probably change soon once the snowline drops.

                                                                                      Plenty of others were on the trail too. The gate to the Grind is locked, however you can access the trail through the adjoining parking lot. The access trail is well marked.

                                                                                        Posted: November 19, 2012 01:06:04 PM PST

                                                                                        NW from Langley writes:

                                                                                        I want to do this hike this weekend... is the gate going to be locked?

                                                                                          Posted: November 13, 2012 09:43:22 AM PST

                                                                                          Judy from Van from Vancouver writes:

                                                                                          Agree, Mandy!

                                                                                          It is also longer than the Grind. You will still feel like you had a good strenuous workout. Watch out for the biting flies near the top!

                                                                                          Even tho it's decently marked still easy to go off piste. Keep an eye out for those markers.

                                                                                            Posted: September 9, 2012 05:13:39 PM PST

                                                                                            Mandy from Richmond writes:

                                                                                            Some might think this is easier than the Grind. Well, it's not. It's slightly more level than the Grind with more prominent switchbacks, but still steps all the way up. Great option for a less crowded workout!

                                                                                              Posted: August 15, 2012 08:26:54 AM PST

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